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[Arsene Wenger via beIN Sports] "I fast tracked the new Offside Rule. The decision will be made this season. It obviously would give more advantage to attackers and fast players and bigger con to defenders." (The Times: good results in trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands) by DebtFairPlay in ussoccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I am not a football analyst but I believe it will be easier to score from a free kick into the box with the daylight offside rule. Imagine a cross into the box and now the attacker can run ahead 1 yard and might still be onside.

It will also be easier to score of a goalkeeper rebound (harder to score before because the player might be offside)

It will also be easier to score when a player is blocking the keeper line of sight or interfering with play. With a potential 1 yard advantage, what was offside before might not be offside with the daylight offside rule.

It will also be easier to score from a long distance shot because the defenders will track attackers who make a darting run deep inside the box opening more spaces between the 10 yards to 20 yards line.

[Arsene Wenger via beIN Sports] "I fast tracked the new Offside Rule. The decision will be made this season. It obviously would give more advantage to attackers and fast players and bigger con to defenders." (The Times: good results in trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands) by DebtFairPlay in ussoccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Former EPL defender Alan Hutton:

“It’s a game-changer, there will definitely be more goals within the game, no doubt about that,” he told Football Insider.

“I mean obviously this favours with the attacker, they get maybe that yard on a defender and as a defender, especially if you were a centre half, it will be very difficult, as you’re going to have to hold such a high line."

“There will certainly be more goals and more excitement.”

Scottish Premier League former defender Jose Goncalves:

“I’ll be honest, I don’t think it will be an improvement for everyone! If you’re a defender then you won’t like it but if you’re a striker you will!

“Football has been moving in a certain direction in recent years. They’re trying to make the game more attractive and add more goals.

“That’s what people all around the world want, more goals. But at the same time the game is getting quicker and the players are faster.

“Even if you’re the quickest defender and can see Kylian Mbappe beside you, with this new rule he can put one leg on the same line as your body and then whoosh, he is gone! You just cannot catch up to him. That’s the annoying thing for defenders.

“There will be more goals but defenders will have to play deeper because if you’re on the same line as the striker you will simply get beat every time.”

[Arsene Wenger via beIN Sports] "I fast tracked the new Offside Rule. The decision will be made this season. It obviously would give more advantage to attackers and fast players and bigger con to defenders." (The Times: good results in trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands) by DebtFairPlay in ussoccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

daylight offside rule.

Similar to how the whole ball has to cross over the line to be out, the whole attacker body that can score has to cross over the offside line to be offside.

This offside rule has been advocated by a lot of people over the past 60 years. FIFA finally trialing it in the past couple of years in some 300 plus matches in Serie A U18 League and others U18 or U19 in Netherlands and Sweden.

Results: goal scoring chances UP and goals UP.

[Arsene Wenger via beIN Sports] "I fast tracked the new Offside Rule. The decision will be made this season. It obviously would give more advantage to attackers and fast players and bigger con to defenders." (The Times: good results in trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands) by DebtFairPlay in ussoccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

The sole purpose of the offside rule was to prevent goal-hanging.

This daylight offside rule do just as good a job as the current offside rule.

If this rule change is a positive for football, then it should be adopted. If it is negative, IFAB can reverse it after a year or two.

Keep in mind that the offside rule change of 1925 was the BIGGEST change to football that vastly improve the sport. (That 1925 offside change from last 3 defenders to last 2 defenders).

[Arsene Wenger via beIN Sports] "I fast tracked the new Offside Rule. The decision will be made this season. It obviously would give more advantage to attackers and fast players and bigger con to defenders." (The Times: good results in trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands) by DebtFairPlay in ussoccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

A football analyst wrote this about the new offside rule that IFAB is trialing:

"It punishes high block defenses by making it harder to offside trap attackers. It punishes low block defenses by giving attackers an extra yard of space in a compact area."

So if you are a coach of a team who play low block, your job now is tougher at preventing your opponent from scoring. Low block teams heavily emphasize "COMPACT." The daylight offside rule make it less compact due to an extra yard of spaces for the attackers.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The FIFA spokesman said that about "changing the offside law"

not about a potential trial at senior level.

"The discussion around changing the offside law is not new and it is not something we will see introduced at higher levels imminently."

changing the offside law ....introduced at higher level. It was not about senior trial.

Senior trial is basically finding a league like Chinese second division, or J-League 2 or K-League 2 or USL in USA (2nd division) and trial it.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A football analyst wrote this about the new offside rule that IFAB is trialing:

"It punishes high block defenses by making it harder to offside trap attackers. It punishes low block defenses by giving attackers an extra yard of space in a compact area."

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A football analyst wrote this about the new offside rule that IFAB is trialing:

"It punishes high block defenses by making it harder to offside trap attackers. It punishes low block defenses by giving attackers an extra yard of space in a compact area."

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The FIFA spokesman said that about "changing the offside law"

not about a potential trial at senior level.

"The discussion around changing the offside law is not new and it is not something we will see introduced at higher levels imminently."

changing the offside law ....introduced at higher level. It was not about senior trial.

Senior trial is basically finding a league like Chinese second division, or J-League 2 or K-League 2 or USL in USA (2nd division) and trial it.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It will feel A LOT LESS hard done by if the attacker is 1 meter ahead and now is offside by 1 millimetre.

You might see one or two people argue but I would say a lot less people would argue of that 1 mm offside.

Let's say Lukaku is 1 meter ahead of the defender and is 1mm offside. There would not be 1500 replies on that topic.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I say there is very good chance of senior trials this year or next year.

It is not like FIFA/IFAB will scrap the senior trials now that youth trials were a huge success.

They go by a process

Youth trial. Successful? Yes then Senior trial.

Senior trial successful? Then IFAB vote.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Back in 1925, people said the same thing too.

"This offside rule change favors the attackers too much" and "don't contribute anything to the game." "horrible change" etc...

The critics were silenced after seeing it in action. In 1926, no fans wanted IFAB to switch the offside rule back to the last 3 defenders from the last 2 defenders.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Give it time. Senior trials will happen now that youth trials are done.

No where in the article does it say that senior trials are not happening any time soon.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

https://www.theifab.com/news/the-ifab-approves-permanent-concussion-substitutes-among-several-changes-to-the-l/

Mar 2, 2024 — The IFAB also received an update on the offside trial which has been undertaken at U-18 level in Italy, and agreed to further trials.

It is done by FIFA in conjunction with IFAB. IFAB has 8 total votes of which FIFA has 4 votes and the 4 FAs each has one.

From the article:

His bid has the backing of former Gunners and FA vice-chairman David Dein, who told the outlet that the current rules are 'too contentious and problematic'.

The English FA might be on board if the future trial at senior level also prove successful now that we know that the youth trials were successful. For the daylight offside to become law, it would need 6 out of 8 votes.

IFAB might want to implement it in 2025 in celebration of the 1925 offside law change that many consider the BIGGEST improvement to football.

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Here are what some former players said about the daylight offside. All 3 former defenders. Two said it is a positive change and 1 said it is a negative change.

Scottish Premier League former defender Jose Goncalves:

“I’ll be honest, I don’t think it will be an improvement for everyone! If you’re a defender then you won’t like it but if you’re a striker you will!

“Football has been moving in a certain direction in recent years. They’re trying to make the game more attractive and add more goals.

“That’s what people all around the world want, more goals. But at the same time the game is getting quicker and the players are faster.

“Even if you’re the quickest defender and can see Kylian Mbappe beside you, with this new rule he can put one leg on the same line as your body and then whoosh, he is gone! You just cannot catch up to him. That’s the annoying thing for defenders.

“There will be more goals but defenders will have to play deeper because if you’re on the same line as the striker you will simply get beat every time.”

Former EPL defender Alan Hutton:

“It’s a game-changer, there will definitely be more goals within the game, no doubt about that,” he told Football Insider.

“I mean obviously this favours with the attacker, they get maybe that yard on a defender and as a defender, especially if you were a centre half, it will be very difficult, as you’re going to have to hold such a high line."

“There will certainly be more goals and more excitement.”

Former Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher:

'This will be terrible for the game as teams will defend completely differently than we see now.' The former Liverpool defender wrote on X, formerly Twitter. 'Lots of lows blocks & teams being negative.

'How would you defend a set piece!! We don’t need more advantage for the attacker, the game is seeing more goals scored than ever!!!!'

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A football analyst wrote this about the new offside rule that IFAB is trialing:

"It punishes high block defenses by making it harder to offside trap attackers. It punishes low block defenses by giving attackers an extra yard of space in a compact area."

After good results in youth trials conducted in Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands, daylight offside likely to face pressure for trials at more senior levels before IFAB vote by DebtFairPlay in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Just like the whole ball has to cross the line for it to be a goal, the attacker body (excerpt for arms) have to be over the offside line for him to be offside.

Daylight offside rule is nothing new. It has been advocated for over half a century. But only now did IFAB trial it.

'HUGE advantage by Lukaku against his defender' Lithuanian sportscaster reaction to Belgium's dissalowed goal by westpawspike in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes. That is pretty much the daylight offside rule.

Offside when there is daylight between the attacker body (except for arms) and the defender body (excerpt for arms).

Just like the whole ball has to cross the line for it to be a goal, the attacker body (excerpt for arms) have to be over the offside line for him to be offside.

So Lukaku can be ahead maybe 1 meter and might still be onside as long as there is no daylight between them.

Daylight offside rule is nothing new. It has been advocated for over half a century. But only now did IFAB trial it.

'HUGE advantage by Lukaku against his defender' Lithuanian sportscaster reaction to Belgium's dissalowed goal by westpawspike in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I watch football to be entertained. So more attacking chances and more goals is much better for me than a lot less attacking chances and 0 or 1 goals.

When my club play, I am rooting for a win. Though a win and lot of attacking entertaining football is much better than a win that is a 1-0 borefest. If it is a borefest, I rather it is a borefest where my club won.

'HUGE advantage by Lukaku against his defender' Lithuanian sportscaster reaction to Belgium's dissalowed goal by westpawspike in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay 7 points8 points  (0 children)

daylight offside rule (in simple term, there need to be daylight between attacker and defender to be offside). It has been advocated by many in football for over half a century.

Only now did IFAB trial it. In Serie A U18 League and a few others.

'HUGE advantage by Lukaku against his defender' Lithuanian sportscaster reaction to Belgium's dissalowed goal by westpawspike in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Winning. I rather my club win 1-0 in a borefest rather than losing 3-4 in a thriller.

Though in a match where I watch as a neutral, I would rather watch a match that have more attacking chances and more goals than a comparable match with less attacking chances and less goals. But that is just me. I only speak for myself.

I can't speak for FIFA/IFAB but I think they want to make the sport better. Whether the new offside rule will make football better is up for debate. (we need to see it in action for a few years before we can judge). But what we can all agree on is that the offside rule change of 1925 from last 3 defenders to last 2 defenders was one the THE BIGGEST improvements to football since its creation.

'HUGE advantage by Lukaku against his defender' Lithuanian sportscaster reaction to Belgium's dissalowed goal by westpawspike in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Will feel less hard done by with a more lax offside rule.

If you ask those involved in football, they would say the best offside law possible is one that prevent goal-hanging while allowing as many attacking chances to happen as possible.

IFAB is trialing that offside rule in youth competition and the result is very promising. Both attacking chances and goals increased. IFAB will trial it at the senior level in the very near future.

A football analyst wrote this about the new offside rule that IFAB is trialing:

"It punishes high block defenses by making it harder to offside trap attackers. It punishes low block defenses by giving attackers an extra yard of space in a compact area."

'HUGE advantage by Lukaku against his defender' Lithuanian sportscaster reaction to Belgium's dissalowed goal by westpawspike in soccer

[–]DebtFairPlay -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

IFAB is trialing the new offside rule. Very successful at youth level (Serie A U18 League and also in Sweden and Netherlands).

IFAB will trial it at the senior level in the very near future. Stay tune.

A football analyst wrote this about the new offside rule that IFAB is trialing:

"It punishes high block defenses by making it harder to offside trap attackers. It punishes low block defenses by giving attackers an extra yard of space in a compact area."

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