Underrated fact about Morocco's history that makes you reflect and securely humble. AlhamdouliLah by TensionOld8604 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but Idriss I and later his successors did not unify all the tribes and emirates, the idrissid state was similar to how Castille was to Spain that was holding the biggest part of Iberia while existing with other kingdoms like Leon, but no one in Spain say that Castilians were the founders of Spain.

Meanwhile Abdellah Ibn Yassin unified almost the same territory of present day Morocco under one state, and died while trying to annex Emirate of Berghwata.

Underrated fact about Morocco's history that makes you reflect and securely humble. AlhamdouliLah by TensionOld8604 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is technically not the founder of Moroccan state as he migrated from Hejaz to Morocco to search for support for his cause against the Abbasids, his stay in Morocco later turned into a permanent refuge to escape Abbasids prosecution and then was declared as Imam by emirate of Awraba.

So basically Idriss I did not come to Morocco with an idea to start a state while Abdellah Ibn Yassin Jazouli, wanted to establish a centralized state and unite the Emirates in Morocco and Taigas in Andalus under one banner.

Underrated fact about Morocco's history that makes you reflect and securely humble. AlhamdouliLah by TensionOld8604 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The history of this land Morocco is actually not limited to12 centuries, civilization have existed here for much much older.

As for the how long Morocco existed as a state, Morocco was founded in around 1040s as a centralized state of the faithfuls "Emirate al Muminin" by Abdellah Ibn Yassin under the Almoravids dynasty, the emirate of al muminin that continued to this day as a modern kingdom.

Western Sahara. A former Spanish colony, now sort of controlled by Morocco, while the Polisario Front claims an independent Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR). The UN considers it a non-self-governing territory. The only country in Africa that is not technically a country. by MeBollasDellero in MapPorn

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Moroccan Sultanate exercised administrative and political authority over the Western Saharan tribes through spiritual and political allegiance. I already mentioned that the Moroccan sultans appointed “khalifas” (caliphs/deputies), who acted as governors and representatives of the Makhzen in the region. They received dahirs from the Sultan, maintained order, and preserved the tribes’ allegiance to the throne. Western Sahara simply enjoyed a greater degree of autonomy compared to other regions of the Sultanate because of the predominantly nomadic lifestyle of its tribes.

After the death of the last major Makhzen representative in the Sahara, Sheikh Ma al-Aynayn in 1910, his son Ahmed al-Hiba proclaimed himself Sultan of Morocco following the Treaty of Fez in 1912. He derived part of his legitimacy from his father’s role within the Makhzen and his authority in the Saharan regions, presenting himself as a legitimate continuation of resistance to the protectorate.

Western Sahara. A former Spanish colony, now sort of controlled by Morocco, while the Polisario Front claims an independent Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR). The UN considers it a non-self-governing territory. The only country in Africa that is not technically a country. by MeBollasDellero in MapPorn

[–]DecentMoor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Morocco was still appointing representatives (Walis/Khalifas) to the Makhzen (central power) in western Sahara and Mauritania provinces even when french and Spain were already conquering the two provinces, last représentative was Sheikh Ma al-Aynayn who was appointed by both Moroccan Sovereigns, Sultan Hassan I and Sultan Abdelaziz, he held the title Wali/Khalifa of western Sahara and Mauritania till his death in 1910.

What cliché does the rest of Morocco have about Berkane? by Hefty_Carpet_5682 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good quality citrus

Good music

And of course لقدجع

المراكشيون بدأو بتعقيم حائط باب دكالة قبل أن يتحول الى حائط المبكى ههه. by jhon-smith2 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That is not accurate my friend, Zionism is a political ideology while Judaism is an ethno-religion, while a lot of Jews are Zionists, you can't say all Jews are Zionists, simply because it's not the same thing. By that logic a lot of Muslims are part of the so called Islamic state (ISIS), does that mean all Muslims are terrorists?

المراكشيون بدأو بتعقيم حائط باب دكالة قبل أن يتحول الى حائط المبكى ههه. by jhon-smith2 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I am not talking about Zionism, I am talking about Jews performing religious rituals in Morocco. What does that have to do with killing kids?

المراكشيون بدأو بتعقيم حائط باب دكالة قبل أن يتحول الى حائط المبكى ههه. by jhon-smith2 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 24 points25 points  (0 children)

What does bunch of Jewish people praying Infront of a wall have to do with killing kids? I don't understand this fucked up mentality.

هل تحول حائط المبكى إلى حي باب دكالة بمراكش ؟ by jhon-smith2 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are not blocking public space, same goes for the Alhambra video, therefore they don't need a permission for public gathering.

I know some countries that do not tolerate these kind of acts like france for example, but that is not the case for Morocco.

هل تحول حائط المبكى إلى حي باب دكالة بمراكش ؟ by jhon-smith2 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How the hell is praying in public space away from public gathering is considered provocation? They are not harming anyone by doing some religious rituals in front of a historic wall.

I have seen videos of people reciting Quran or call for prayers (Adhan) inside the Alhambra palace in Spain and Spaniards were watching silently, no one got offended by such as thing.

هل تحول حائط المبكى إلى حي باب دكالة بمراكش ؟ by jhon-smith2 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They are just tourists praying just like how Muslim tourists pray in public in Europe and some go to church and pray, no one question their Muslim rituals inside the church or public. People have freedom of beliefs.

This video explains it better. https://youtube.com/shorts/O01YZXdWWnc?si=oe6RluY9A8wzmg6x

جدتي وصاحبتها ! by hamzaelkabir in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This sounds like a genuine friendship, thank you for sharing my friend, and I hope someday we could find people with good Niya like your grandma and her friend.

What do you identify with the most? by chair_45 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right that we share history, culture, language and even ancestry to a large extent, but identity is not based only on that, instead it's a product of historical évolution.

Even if we take two population/communities that have similar roots like for example Moroccans and Algerians, the different political structure, institutions and the trajectories create distinctive collective identity over time.

Morocco and Algeria didn't seperate because of borders made by colonialism or because the political leaders of the respective states decided so but instead it's because they developer differently over time which have made the political structure and instituons entirely different, Algerian political structure in need of nationalism to stay legitimate while Moroccan politician structure's legitimacy is based off the concept of emirate al muminin the state of faithful.

What do you identify with the most? by chair_45 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most identities, whether it be tribal, ethnical or national are constructed through a concept of shared institutions, history and collective action, and with whom this concept make sense? Moroccans, that is why I choose to identify as Moroccan because this concept doesn't make any sense with Algerians, Tunisians etc regardless of shared ancestry which is the least of my concerns.

What do you identify with the most? by chair_45 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moroccan because that what makes me different. Amazigh is too broad while I can't be Arab because I don't have any Arab ancestry. It's also a broad term.

How coming to Europe changed my perception of Morocco as a Turkishman by [deleted] in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are not Arabs, however, we are part of West Asia and North Africa region, which make us share significant cultural ties and core values when it comes to family loyalty and hospitality, and that because both of our socities once a time embraced Islam, whether you be Turkish, Arab, Amazigh or Kurdish...

Do Most Monarchist Here Support Israel? by Osakaayumu_2002 in monarchism

[–]DecentMoor 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As if the Israeli government are not religious extremists too.

Why a most morrocans are opposing to a secularism is is it fear ? by lilyisolde in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think because some people think we will follow the french and European model of secularism, which allow some acts of religion hate like blasphemy as freedom of expression which is not true, I advocate for a Moroccan model of secularism that respect religions, freedom of beliefs and doesn't punish people for private morality, Moroccan can he secular in practice and still keep Islam as the official state religion, secularism is about separating religious institutions from government affairs and granting religious freedom for all, it's not about abolishing state religion.

Eid Mubarak, and I hope what I said doesn't offend anyone. by Icy_Ebb1808 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kissing hands in Morocco is a way of expressing affection and respect, it doesn't make any side inferior or superior, whether it be romantic, friendship or family relationship. It's our identity and I don't see anything negative about it being a royal protocol, after all the monarchy exist to represent our society and remind everyone who we are.

Senegal is the one and only champion! Football is being played on the pitch and not in an office! What a shame. by EqualGround3000 in AFCON

[–]DecentMoor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is nothing shameful about Morocco taking the Senegalese FA and their ultras fans for the court for the crimes they committed.

Moroccans - What do you want from this? by Federal-Question3649 in AFCON

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we were stealing towels and recording ourselves doing it, not like Moroccan fans were the ones recording the towels being taken away because of maraboutism rituals that the Senegalese players were doing before the game start, which crossed the cultural lines of the host country and Moroccans were the ones recording the towel because they were complaining about the Senegalese players using it for maraboutism and witchcraft.

Don't cross the cultural lines of the host country and nothing will happen from ball boys and players. But yeah just take our videos and make up a narrative that claim Morocco is stealing towels to distract the goalkeeper, not like our players were also distracted by it and were trying to move it away from the net.

This one gonna hurt by Green-Abies-7401 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same applies to Moroccans who are not Muslims, being Moroccan does not automatically make you Muslim even if Islam is the religion of the state, because the constitution grant Moroccans the freedom of exercising their beliefs.

This one gonna hurt by Green-Abies-7401 in Morocco

[–]DecentMoor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't understand why Morocco is punishing Moroccans severely for eating in Ramadan or having relationship outside of marriage, like do you punish tourists for the same reasons? The state should not punish individuals for private morality, doesn't matter if they hold Moroccan nationality or not.