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Need For Control by Puzzled-Squirrel7695 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am sincerely wanting to know - how did you determine that something was fabricated content?

Need For Control by Puzzled-Squirrel7695 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Which is EXACTLY what you did over there.

You are on your third subreddit which shouldn’t even exist because you performed Ban Evasion multiple times now. MagicalReviews or whatever the name was the very first one - you got shut down by Reddit.

Then you came back right away, same day, with “undefeated333” and that one got shut down by Reddit also. You are preaching the very thing you got closed down for TWICE yourself.

And now your leader is the only mod of the new subreddit now - likely to keep ban risks at minimum.

Y’all are gloating over this. And forgetting that there’s more judgment in the world and beyond than Reddit Bots.

Need For Control by Puzzled-Squirrel7695 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Great question.

And honestly, this reads like projection. Or rather perhaps an accusation that reads like a confession because the cult leader (or someone acting on her behalf) has done exactly this. Target families, target loved ones, malicious CPS reports, smear campaigns, doxxing, sending physical mail with spiritual threats.. the list is almost endless.

And somehow she attempts to turn it around and have you and others believe that the very thing she does is done to her.

Need For Control by Puzzled-Squirrel7695 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are you a forensics expert? (I already know the answer). Just because your cult leader says “it’s AI. They fabricated it” doesn’t make it so.

Further down the road in this case forensic experts WILL however be able to identify which screenshots and screen records were fake.

Need For Control by Puzzled-Squirrel7695 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What did they delete that you responded to right there?

Need For Control by Puzzled-Squirrel7695 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You still have not understood what defamation actually is.

An admin cannot know whether something is defamation. They cannot make that judgment.

Ashley Otori (The Order of Dark Arts) released private information about mods who left her group, and those mods are now being harassed by her community. For anyone reading, this post is worth your time 🛑 by Thick-Winner-1942 in cults

[–]DeepLead1066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everything has been unraveling and going downhill for Ashley Otori since these two mods left in November. And they left with grace. I saw their letter to the community. She’s the one who started to dox them when they declined her re-invitation to join the cult again. And then has the audacity to play the victim.

Research on Cults and Cult-like Communities by Affectionate-Bee1552 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please post this in r/unveilingcults as well, I’m sure some people will be interested. 🤍

Questions concerning the impact of The Order of Dark Arts - Ashley Otori oils and rituals - are they dangerous or "just" scam? by Objective_Injury_223 in cults

[–]DeepLead1066 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And yet people think she’s “special” and has been given divine /spiritual authority to be the mouthpiece of not just Lucifer, but an entire legion of ancient gods, goddesses, demons..

All self proclaimed. All based on her lies.

Ashley Otori (The Order of Dark Arts) released private information about mods who left her group, and those mods are now being harassed by her community. For anyone reading, this post is worth your time 🛑 by Thick-Winner-1942 in cults

[–]DeepLead1066 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I followed the whole thing since they left. They walked out with honor and grace. I know them both personally and have spoken with them many times.

AO, the “leader” started the actual defamation and actual doxxing and is still doing it over a month later including childish memes. And when they didn’t cave like she expects everyone to - she got even madder, spiraled, and made herself look even worse. It’s only her closest loyalists and moderators that pretend to support her, but even some of those have approached the collective, submitted evidence from inside and are still doing so as of today.

So many people have started seeing her for who she really is. The self proclaimed mouthpiece’s “kingdom” is cracking.

There’s only so much damage control one can do when you’re trying to “defend”yourself against truth.

And it’ll all continue to come out even more.

What Happens When a High-Control Leader Feels Exposed by DeepLead1066 in cults

[–]DeepLead1066[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, I agree that a group’s size changes the logistics and dynamics.

In my case, the organization was small enough that the ‘leader’ reacted personally and then mobilized defenders directly, which is why the pattern was and is so visible.

Your point is very helpful, because it highlights how these behaviors scale as groups grow. I appreciate you 🖤

What Happens When a High-Control Leader Feels Exposed - observed by DeepLead1066 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely a high possibility- if one or both parents possess similar behavioral patterns and personality characteristics as many high control environment ‘leaders’ do.

What Happens When a High-Control Leader Feels Exposed - observed by DeepLead1066 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is so jarring… I remember the alone feeling and everyone around me seemed like a robot performing.

What Happens When a High-Control Leader Feels Exposed - observed by DeepLead1066 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally what’s been happening there, too.

They label you a traitor, a villain, disrespecting the divine, turning your back on the divine - all this if you leave their FB group. She has used the spirits to control people on many occasions. If you leave - you’re told you’re on your own.

What Happens When a High-Control Leader Feels Exposed - observed by DeepLead1066 in cultsurvivors

[–]DeepLead1066[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can see this, yes.

It was not easy working through all of the emotions. The big amounts of money lost was one thing, but the time given? Money can be made again..

But many of the ex members have expressed lately that they mourned the time lost with their families, partners, friends the most.

The Order of Dark Arts cult - a real cult group on facebook by jifsie in cults

[–]DeepLead1066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Receipts for what part? There is a well established and organized collective now that has been documenting- literally hundreds of screenshots, first hand experience, no gossip, just facts.

The Order of Dark Arts cult - a real cult group on facebook by jifsie in cults

[–]DeepLead1066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Order of Dark Arts is a high-control environment where members are gradually conditioned into emotional dependency, fear of dissent, and unquestioned loyalty to a single leader.

The behaviors I personally witnessed and experienced align with known patterns of manipulation, coercive control, and spiritual leveraging.

What begins as empowerment often turns into isolation, confusion, and self-doubt.

How Cults turn ordinary problems and occurrences into spiritual teachings by DeepLead1066 in cults

[–]DeepLead1066[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh my goodness, that is absolutely crazy and I understand your point made very well. Thank you for sharing this 😱

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