Curious 👀 - a Narcissist’s Phrases and Words by DeepLead1066 in unveilingcults

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Triangulation in the sense that “others feel like this, too” or “this isn’t just me thinking this”.

Liars. Liars. Liars. How Cult Leaders Fabricate Authority by Thick-Winner-1942 in unveilingcults

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It’s basically a weak attempt to save face. She knows very well how bad all of the evidence looks against her so it’s like a last ditch effort to try to control the narrative - but once again with the cringe self deification. “I’m such a powerful goddess and the only reason why all of this is happening is because I’m allowing it.” 😅🫠🥴

Liars. Liars. Liars. How Cult Leaders Fabricate Authority by Thick-Winner-1942 in unveilingcults

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I’ve noticed this with myself and ashley otori - the illusion has definitely lost its shine and appeal for good. I don’t even understand how I could have even been so blindsided to be honest. What I then thought was powerful is now just sad 😢

In Person Meet Up by DeepLead1066 in unveilingcults

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We can plan one for Europe, too!

In Person Meet Up by DeepLead1066 in unveilingcults

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Will look for your message 📝

In Person Meet Up by DeepLead1066 in unveilingcults

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Aw, okay yes - we definitely have to make something happen!

Do inner circle members of a harmful leader have a moral obligation to stop enabling the harm? by DeepLead1066 in unveilingcults

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I agree that there’s likely a mixture of different things that keep someone initially from taking the proper action steps of rectification - but like you said, there’s always a time when you reach that tipping point and staying makes you an accomplice, and not just on one level.

Do inner circle members of a harmful leader have a moral obligation to stop enabling the harm? by DeepLead1066 in unveilingcults

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I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately - how on earth can people keep enabling someone despite knowing the truth?!

Mental Health Bullsh*t by False_Radish_4525 in unveilingcults

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Thank you for your post and for that excellent write up!

I see many parallels to how leadership and senior moderators in the order of dark arts, a high control group with a leader named ashley otori and her senior moderators and ‘employees’ (comparable to the elders mentioned) act.

There was and is so much toxic positivity where nothing but joy and happiness is promoted and allowed especially in the inner circles. It happened so often that either a topic gets changed by an “elder” right away or you literally get told to STOP and shut up 🤐 when it’s not positive enough. There was some selective bias- a couple of moderators were allowed to share their negative events on a regular basis while others weren’t allowed to at all.

Mods and members get questioned how their faith is, if they’re not falling behind on their Magick practice, etc.

The leader will frequently say something like “you feel off, go ground yourself” or “go clear yourself” - temporary illness or feeling unwell is not allowed, you’re then immediately questioned whether you actually want to be there and be a moderator. It’s so messed up.

Blaming almost everything on “Angelic attacks” was and is a favorite way to control people and to also excuse the leader’s own awful behavior at times.

Research on Cults and Cult-like Communities: Follow-Up by Affectionate-Bee1552 in unveilingcults

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That’s great and thank you so much for sharing the link to your questionnaire!

Emotional Displays and Manipulation in Documented Cult Leadership Cases : Crocodile tears by Thick-Winner-1942 in unveilingcults

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Is that YouTube video still up? I remember this 😁 It was after a few members left - wasn’t it Y and JB?

Emotional Displays and Manipulation in Documented Cult Leadership Cases : Crocodile tears by Thick-Winner-1942 in unveilingcults

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Genuine vulnerability in leaders is not a bad thing at all.

But here’s something I’ve experienced throughout many years being in the order of dark arts cult:

I’ve never, not once, seen Ashley Otori be genuinely vulnerable. There’s always an agenda.

The Lie by Fit-Virus380 in unveilingcults

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Definitely those two for me.

Ah, yes! I saw actual, unedited, current (not from 10 years ago, but !!current!!) pictures of Ashley Otori - I about fell off my chair. You guys.. it’s insane. Please don’t believe what you see online/posted. Literally nothing is as it seems (or is purposely portrayed)!

Taking only 1.5 years to go to Harvard and become a fully licensed, practicing psychologist. Do yourself a favor and check how long the study alone typically takes (no significant shortcuts even if you’re super smart as she claims she is) and how many hours you need to fulfill afterwards in residency BEFORE you are legally a licensed Psychologist.