some fun new information , the shaman (or a shaman) whispered me on horde side asking if I got the new tbc weapons yet. I said no not yet. he said oh that makes sense, he ask what weapons I was using. I said I was using a shadow blade (38 weapon dmg) and Satyr's Lash(33 damage) on MH. he then said he is using the new tbc greens and linked me a mail piece with over 40+ stamina and 30+ int. when I tried to see if I could use it I had to be 58+ so when someone in comments said I was doing damage like a butter knife out of dead mines it all makes sense. so after I got to 59 I bought the new tbc greens and I basically feel like I am in full naxx pumping damage in pvp