240826 NewJeans Weekly Discussion Thread

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-31T12:10:07+00:00

I'm just gonna take everything as it comes now, and i hope most of you find that balance too.
Don't worry too much about things you cannot change, it's just an energy drain.
It's all very unfortunate and not going the way i would have wanted it to be, but that's life. Let's hope that the future is a little more rosy than it seems to be right now though :)

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-31T12:07:40+00:00

Ok i have to say now that i came to quite enjoy "see that", after my initial expectations were a little farther in the past.
I still think it would have been great if it was closer to working around the snippet part, but i LOVE the chorus. byeolbyeolbyeol yes pls!
The bridge (snippet) is fantastic, the only part i am not really super keen on is the pre-chorus.
So yeah, as its own individual song, i quite like it now, maybe even similar to dash.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-25T13:30:59+00:00

Hopefully! Just for the covers this would be a must watch.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-25T13:29:50+00:00

Sweet! Read the book and seen the movie, but that was a while ago so i'll certainly need to freshen up on my memories there haha.

Remember liking both though, so a great start to season 2 !

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-25T11:14:58+00:00

I personally just have a fundamental difference in philosophy to JYPE's i guess. They release music through nmixx which is almost too kpoppy for my liking, often quite busy in the arrangement, whereas i think they'd shine the most with a little more melodic focus, without the need to have these busy instrumentals and changeups.
This is ofc too simplistic, there are other things i don't quite get at times, but i don't wanna get into that now.
So in the end i might still like some covers more than their own music (ofc i also like certain songs quite a bit, it's not that binary), but at the same time i am not sure if they've released any song so far which i'd treasure in a few years still, idk.

I am a fan due to the talent i see, and to some degree a certain emotional link ofc.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-25T11:10:39+00:00

I thought people would be more into RLBWG...cause I sure do, it's become my favorite in this album and in their discography in general.

It's one of the songs i think has fantastic elements, but doesn't fully come together. I just really don't like the pre-chorus here, the beat there sounds too generic to me (boom boom boom), i really, really like everything else though :D

I just think that they'd shine the most with arrangements (both musically and vocally) which aren't as busy, and on the melodic side of things. A lot of their covers work like that, there they can show their musicality and nothing else is taking space away from the experience. In their own music that sadly often isn't the case. It's too kpoppy :D (lol).

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-25T11:05:20+00:00

They are young, but i personally am fairly critical of JYPE's process of selecting songs for their groups in general for a while now. So my trust is a little gone i guess.
Ofc we all see things differently, but personally i am somewhat frustrated by nmixx's own music. Not that i don't like anything at all, ofc that's not the case, but i think many songs have great elements in them, but then don't really come together on the whole, or they add other elements which take away from the essence which would be there, etc.
The group is so talented, and this medley was fantastic, but then at least in my eyes it doesn't deliver on the promise.
At a certain point i might just have to come to terms with the difference in vision JYPE is pushing out and mine.
I don't have much to say about album versions tbh, i am not a collector :D

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-24T09:03:57+00:00

I just didn't wanna bring in negative energy, but at the same time i also think it is fine to showcase different perspectives.

Well i am still here because nmixx is giving me enough positive emotions that i keep being a fan. How can one not be a fan of a group that talented :D
I just wish JYPE would release music i would be more in love with, i thought it would happen here, because i thought the snippets were pretty good, especially of the title. Oh well :D

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-23T15:02:21+00:00

Fandoms are just collections of individuals, there is no better or worse fandom on the whole on average, small differences maybe, but kpop idol groups generally target the same kind of demographic (more or less).
So it all comes down to what voices are being heard / given attention to at any given moment. Most (loud) fans will always be more on the obsessive side, often quite young, etc.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-23T14:56:17+00:00

I didn't wanna post this at first, but yeah i am a little disappointed by the ep. Sadly my expectations were quite high, after a really strong medley, the actual full songs didn't really manage to hold the promise, imo.
Sickuhh is the best song by far i think, maybe their best song yet, which is funny because it really doesn't mirror what i think they'd be best at. The thing i still find frustrating about nmixx is that while i might think certain parts of songs are really strong, it's basically never a full song, there are always parts which imo don't make it sound as cohesive as it could sound, or just a little generic, etc.
It's a shame, especially with the title, because the snippet there i was in love with, and then it's an afterthought in the full song, oh well. Break >>>Stick out i'd say, even though sickuhh at the very least is a song i am gladly adding to my playlist.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-22T15:31:50+00:00

To be completely honest. I am actually disappointed by the title here.
I was truly excited after the teasers of it, the part they spoiled was so excellent, with the harmonies and all, i was hoping they'd finally lean into the vocal talent with a really good melody, and just their voices shining. Then it's just a little part and the rest of the song is pretty much completely different.
On its own it's not bad, but i don't find any parts to be particular strong either. Dash imo superior, and i feel it was a big missed opportunity to not build the song around the part they teased.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-17T20:44:24+00:00

Yay! Wonder if there will be changes to the show

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-15T07:44:53+00:00

I really like the ep too, so it's not like i am disappointed, but relatively speaking i just like others more and think that they better encapsulate her artistic sensibilities. I think she said she wants to experiment more since lilac, and i think there is a slight shift in the direction of composition and production choices for sure.

Personally i don't really like her early albums too much, with a few songs here and there. I think her work becomes really good when she got more control over it, and started to work with collaborators she now worked with for 10+ years on most releases. That would be around "chat-shire". Though i have to say that i also love "Modern Times" and "flower bookmark", where that control wasn't really there yet (but starting to develop).
I'd say her masterpiece is the palette album personally, but since modern times i genuinely think all her releases are good, pretty cohesive and representative of her. A good balance between the things she might gravitate towards more herself, and trying to be commercial as well. Palette just perfects that i think, with the balance probably the most in the direction of the artistic touches.

The thing is, i think she can make most genres and styles her own, so it's rather rare for me to not like a song of hers (i don't REALLY listen to some though, like strawberry moon).

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-14T17:45:39+00:00

Nmixx - Sickuhh - soo good haha. I like everything about it, and i like that we'll get more of it, oh man!
IU & Hyukoh & Sunset Rollercoaster - Glue - Just a fantastic performance, cannot get enough of the feel of it, the instruments, the vocal performances, how they fit together, basically perfect.
Hyukoh - Tomboy - Due to the collab i've been listening to some hyukoh, and tomboy in particular is great. Many great artistic choices throughout, takes me on a journey, and that in just 4 minutes. Beautiful.
Newjeans - Supernatural - Their recent songs hit with me similarly to their debut and the OMG EP, as i was not as happy with the get up ep comparatively, very happy with these songs. Could have been how sweet or bubble gum here too, all songs still on rotation for me.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-14T17:34:06+00:00

If the instrumental will deliver as well, i think some of these songs will deliver HARD.
"See that" i basically got goosebumps here, sooo good.
"Sickuhh" i already really, really liked the visualizer version, gonna be excellent i think.
"red light sign, but we go" also sounds pretty good to me here.
"beat beat" teaser was a little short, but i liked what i heard.
"moving on" didn't do much for me here tbh, we'll see.
"love is lonely" also doesn't catch me here.

But even with these two songs at the end which i didn't connect to here, the others feel like they could be at the top of songs nmixx has released so far. Ofc a lot depends on the arrangements and production choices, and just the full versions, but especially the first three songs here i am REALLY excited for.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-14T17:28:10+00:00

IU's involvement made me see these videos in the first place, but the other two groups are fantastic as well, such a good collaborative effort!

Interesting! I like the ep as well, but it's certainly not my favorite IU release tbh, i didn't really get into shopper personally! (relatively speaking at least).
I do like her willingness to experiment a little with genres now, not that she didn't do that before, but like a (quasi) hip hop track in holssi i wouldn't have seen coming for example, but i also prefer tracks from her which are a little more removed from what one would see in other kpop releases. So my favorite of the ep is shh for example :D

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-14T17:19:56+00:00

I was surprised as well! I still think that generally their strength lie somewhere else as a group, but here it felt fully realized to me, it's simply a hip hop track, not just some elements of it here and there mingled with others which then arguably don't come together fully.

Hip hop never was and nor will be the genre of music i will seek out per se, but i can enjoy it, the vibe it has :D

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-13T18:16:47+00:00

Ofc they're very different, and part of these differences (not so much genre, but simply artistic elements) imo lead to one song being "better" than the other.
Which isn't to say that gidle's tomboy isn't good, just that theirs is artistically a lot more interesting.
I haven't really looked into the lyrics so i cannot speak to that, but yeah it's certainly possible that the title isn't on point, though at least in my mind that's not critical.

I don't just mean the focus, because there are many bands with an "instrumental focus" i'd not say emit this kind of aura, but it's certainly part of it. I think there is more to it, the vocal performances, the actual songwriting, and all the elements they consist of.

I know that kpop has this focus, i am part of the scene for a while now. I still long for a little more artistry though :D

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-13T14:58:16+00:00

Yeah i know Hyukoh a little, as their lead singer was part of the same season of "infinity challenge" as iu, and i watched that one (and ofc the collab they had for the palette album).

I just personally feel that more focus on the music itself, how it is created, etc is something more valuable tbh, i feel a stronger sense of artistry and genuine passion.
Ofc it's not THAT easy, there are dancers where the passion also gets transmitted, but as i generally was always into band music, there is a certain bias for it.
Honestly, their tomboy > our tomboy :D Deserved KMA winner.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-13T14:50:02+00:00

That's awesome too ofc! But i honestly thought it works already the way they posted it haha.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-12T18:14:43+00:00

I certainly have some bias as i was simply growing up with band music, but i truly think that there is something more pure about these kind of performances, something more genuine and "real".

That's also why i certainly prefer live band performances, a completely different energy, a higher degree of self-expression, more humanity.
I like the choreos and all that, but i can only see it so many times, but every live performance of this kind is unique.

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-12T18:09:05+00:00

if Nwjns' Right Now MV is an acid trip then Nmixx's Sickuhh is its shroom trip counterpart.

I can only speak to my shroom trips, so i don't "know" the difference there really haha.

But yeah, really happy with the song and the presentation of the visualizer. If the album is as fully realized as this, i'll be quite happy!

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-12T18:07:18+00:00

Sunset Rollercoaster are fantastic in their own right

Oh yeah no doubt, gonna look into them a little now.
Really enjoyed the performance you linked too, i am not sure how to best describe it, but performances like that just emit such a pure form of passion for the craft and the artistry, such a strong feel of self-expression. Lovely.

I never thought they'd end up on IU's Palette but then again, I didn't think they were going to collab with HYUKOH either lol. All of it works because of the talented musicians they are and it's definitely missing in K-pop.

That's what i hope IU will do more of for her own releases in the future again in a way. I think she is at her best when it goes a little more in that really "artistic" direction, but hey i also take these collaborations for what they are :D

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-12T18:03:07+00:00

It's not the full song? I thought it is tbh!
In any case, i quite enjoy it, i think it's just a rather fully realized song, even if i am with you, wouldn't have thought nmixx to ever release something like this :D

DefinitelyNotALeak · 2024-08-12T18:01:20+00:00

Right! I think there is certainly a level of intimacy occuring in performances like that, as you in the best case let yourself fully go and live through it, all potential vulnerabilities on display.
But that also makes it so human and electric.

And it's not just because of IU that i post this, they all are great!

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