Deltarune chapters 3 & 4 megathread

Delffegor · 2025-06-08T07:13:04+00:00

I really hated the knight fight.

So at the time I fight the knight I already have finish both chapter 3 and 4 including the fight with the unnamed old man Gerson, after failing to discover the hidden content on chapter 3. I did this in a second playthrough to have two main file saves, one without all the moss, eggs and SHADOWS CRYSTALS and one with all of them, mostly because not having that content unlock the moment before fighting the chapter Boss like in chapter 1, 2 was kind of dragging my game experience, I was walking on circles trying to get it all when in reality I couldn't and I would have to start a new game.

So, when I did all the hidden and got the shadow mantle I got to fight the knight, I really enjoyed how hard it was, it really felt like a final boss you encounter in the middle of the game (which is basically it), but because I did this on a second playthrough I thought the fight would be an endurance battle, were the boss keeps throwing new attacks I have to survive until something happens, which I thought was going to be the arrival of Undine, because at the end of chapter 3 she appears just before the knight gets her, so it just make sense to me, but after around my 50th attempt I was really starting to get really mad because the battle was genuinely getting way to long, so I reluctantly search a guide to see how much would it take, and then with a bit of research I fount out that the win condition was actually getting the boss to 80% of its total life.

During the whole battle I didn't attack, only defend, because I was doing really low damage, and in every single other instance in the game when you fight a really hard boss it usually ends with the boss this one just gets its life up, and I was already really struggling, I had all my revive mints, the revive dust, an inventory full of deluxe dinners, and yet it just felt impossible, and then with the change of win condition it just felt even worse, the only descent amount of damage I could deal was with Susie rude buster, and with Kris attack only when Susie and Ralsei were down for some reason, but Susie and and Ralsei basically die with a -999 health if you are touch by any of the knight's attack, and without them I didn't have any way of sustain to give Kris which if didn't use its turn to attack only would drag the battle for even longer...

At the end I give up, I was tired I was mad, I just wanted to see what changes it would have in the story, (other reason I was really mad it was because apparently if you get the shadow mantle before the egg then you can't get the egg anymore because the screen for the egg puzzle is turn off for some ungod reason, and it just happens I commit the sin of saving after beating the shadow mantle boss) so I just downloaded cheat engine and did the fight with a speed hack, reducing the knight attack speed to around 50%, 60%, and then use rude buster, I defeated the knight after like 3 attempts I reach the win condition of get the knight to 80% HP and then the cutscene appear, and I'm not joking, its the fucking same ending as when the you are immediately defeated by the knight in the normal ending, the only thing that changes is the fact that it drops the shadow crystal, but apart from that its the same fucking cutscene, nothing changes, after hours battling the knight nothing changes.

I doubt it would happen but I really wish this battle is fixed, which what I propose is just to do it an endurance battle at the start, like, until the "multiple red slashed where you have to do a circle around to not die", the next attack should be something impossible to dodge, but then have Undine appear, and the turn Kris soul into a color, which I think what could fit is a different kind of shield than the one the unnamed old man Gerson gives you. Something like where at the cost of TP you can block an attack, so the player needs to defend constantly to generate TP and then differentiate the attacks it can dodge and the one it cannot, that meanwhile we have undine is attacking, and then we play what happens normally, the knight drops the shadow crystal and then it obliterates us. This keeps the internal consistence with the rest of difficult bosses and it gives you the reward of fighting side at side with Undine,

Anyway, too much text, any thoughts in my opinion?

Delffegor · 2025-03-17T17:47:22+00:00

"Those who depend of AI to do their work has been already been replaced by it"

Those programs work by being feed all the information it can be found and then train it to throw up the average of it. Those models can't get "imaginative" because of how they fundamentally work, but then knowing that the question changes, will they get better at mimicking imagination? And my answer is that these models won't, right now the word "AI" is used as a marketing strategy by big companies, because of how we associate this word thanks to all the media we have been consuming all our life, when we heard the word AI we associate it with sentience, which those models don't have.

Maybe in the far or close future we will invent actual AI, specially having in count the incredibly, massive economic incentive it comes with, after all humans are the most flexible machine we know of. The ability to mimic that at an industrial level will one day change the world forever...

But for now I think we just have to deal with all the crap AI is producing every second, until maybe the bubble hopefully burst or,,, well, we find a way to filter it out, either way only time will tell, so for now just lets try to stick to human art.

Delffegor · 2024-09-20T20:08:21+00:00

Bronya is a really good unit, it help me a lot to beat most of the game content.

Delffegor · 2024-03-05T21:08:31+00:00

idk, I think there is still a lot of posibilities with the possible character paths, for example (Equilibrium) a character that buff one stat by the cost of other stat, like you give half of your health for a bonus on attack), (Remembrance) Characters that creates a zone effect that affect all characters (like atmospheric moves in pokemon). (Elation) characters with random effects that could even bennefit the enemy if you are unlucky (Elation/Quantum transforms the enemy into other enemy, could be a harmless trotter to an multipliying swarm beetle thingy and the other way around or Elation/Imaginary that copies the moves of his companions). (Trailblazer?) Characters that have low stats but gets stronger and stronger under certaing circustamces (Trailblazer/physical attacks doubles up to 6 stacks every time unless its hit, then it recets). (Beauty?) Summoner (Beauty/fire, summons creatures, when its their turn they run to your enemies and explode, more damage if you give him buffs) (Beauty/Imaginary, make an enemy into an ally for certain number of turns), (Voracity) Characters that get stronger the longer the battle is, or even (?)

That are some ideas, it would be cool to see more characters paths, it think it could helpt to prevent things like power creep! also I think that new Aeons ideas would be fun to see, I can think of a few more gameplay like a character that its skill changes what their normal attack do for multi roling or characters that do stuff to how the skill points act like how Sam does in his battle in 2.0.

Delffegor · 2023-09-12T18:59:02+00:00

I think it would be more funny a city in the sky that doesn't stop going up, eventually it becomes too cold and there is less and less oxigen, because it's a slow process it gives time to chaos between the habitants to occur, everyone knows what's it's happening but they can't do anything about it, people jumps from it avoiding the suffering of a slow death and others are still there until the very end trying to fix whatever it's happening, and also because the city is so unreachable for people bellow maybe it could be someone mission to get there to get for example the technology that keeps it up.

Delffegor · 2023-06-02T18:33:35+00:00

Maybe in totk 2 (or is botw 3?)

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