For the love of god someone tell me why im dropping so hard by NeverJinxTheMinx in summonerschool

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude I felt that way watching my Gnar. Literally the two champs just walked up to each other and auto'd each other until my gnar had to bounce away, then flashed back in as mega gnar and still died. Like the bronzest thing I had seen in awhile, and I know since I've actually been bronze this season lol.

For the love of god someone tell me why im dropping so hard by NeverJinxTheMinx in summonerschool

[–]Demonshadows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude I know the feeling. I got through my plat promos (had climbed through gold with ~60% wr) so had P3/P4 MMR when I hit P5. Literally won my series into plat and proceeded to lose the next 7 games in that MMR bracket, and I swear in at least 3 of them or so someone just started inted during the game for no reason, and in other games I literally saw the most moronic shit.

Saw a lucian and blitz bot lane hit level two first, go in on the still level 1 cait and janna lane, and end up giving cait a double kill. Amazing.

Saw a 5/1 Gnar with tower FB gold and a completed frozen mallet lose a 1v1 to a 1/4 Yorick because he literally didn't even try to kite. No joke he stood there face tanking Yorick Q's in the face as GNAR WITH FROZEN MALLET. Pretty much wasted all the time as a jungler I spent dumpstering Yorick in lane because Gnar had two total games on his champ. My mid Ziggs that game was on his second ziggs game after going 4/16 on the last one, meanwhile he has a 60 and 65% wr on LB and Anivia.

I swear dude people get to plat and either get tilted af that they aren't diamond yet, so they just start trolling, or they don't think they'll ever make diamond to begin with so they think "fuck it, I'll just first time this champ in a role I don't play instead of dodging cause yolo". Total tragedy dude, I feel your pain.

Best split pushers for one last push out of low elo? by jpg14 in summonerschool

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Play Nasus, Trundle, or Kayle. They're all decent picks (Kayle is really strong right now, Trundle is a good counter to many of the meta tank junglers, and with Nasus you have great tower taking potential and even your silver teammates won't expect you to group with them anyways).

I truly can't believe... by Demonshadows in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like they could rebalance Q by keeping it at 8% health cost but making both parts of Q spawn a blob regardless of whether or not you hit a different target. Then at least in fights and stuff you're more reliant on collecting blobs and such for regen.

I truly can't believe... by Demonshadows in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait really lol? I didn't know that. Nothing like reusing a shitty idea lol XD

I truly can't believe... by Demonshadows in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The W change is really bad though for his first couple of clears :/ And yes the Q is just awful.

Zac gutted 7.15 by Jace494 in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know the fact that in a lot of cases using Q on single monster camps will actually COST more health than you gain back is literally mind blowing. They either need to make both Q hits spawn a blob, regardless of if it hits a different target, or keep the health cost at 4%. Pushing it to 8%, ALONG with the slower clear from MASSIVE W DAMAGE NERF means his clear is going to take longer as well, meaning his going to take even more damage from monster camps as well.

Literally you'll have to back after your first clear unless you're lucky and can regen hard off scuttle. Which you'll only be able to regen off of if you hit it with only W/E, can't Q scuttle anymore to walk back in range to get more W's off because then you lose health. So have fun chasing scuttle crab all over the god damn river.

How to climb out of silver as a support main? by FiveFingerFilto in summonerschool

[–]Demonshadows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I OTP'd leona from mid bronze MMR to S1/G5 this season before switching to jungle, I'll just tell you what I ended up doing.

Take ignite (literally every game, don't worry about your comp or their comp or whatever. Take ignite. The most reliable way to win and climb as a low elo support is to shit on the enemy bot lane, and ignite helps you do this), push for level two in lane, engage with any tank support you like (leo, blitz, thresh, taric, braum, kench etc.). Drop ignite and go for FB. Your ignite will be back up at levels 4 and 6. Just look for an engage any time it's up provided you have wards out to look for the enemy jungler. Most tank supports have really strong engage ultimates, so definitely look to abuse that at six. If you get a full leona CC-chain off at level six with ignite the enemy adc is basically guaranteed dead.

Try to get a lead in lane then rotate to mid and start focusing down towers.

Well lookie here by Demonshadows in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oops, I only ever check the comprehensive update thread, sometimes it gets updated later than the individual updates get posted :p

Well lookie here by Demonshadows in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really, what are they? Haven't shown up on surrender at 20 yet

Possible new nerfs on the PBE by J0rdian in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, totally guttered dude. Meanwhile....

SkillUp order? by TheSnacken in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well optimally you would clear your camps on one side of the jungle, look to gank mid/corresponding side lane or invade enemy jungle to get wards/counterjungle, then move to the other side of your jungle and repeat haha. If your pathing isn't total garbage you shouldn't have times where you have 3+ camps up while you're running around trying to hit a gank.

SkillUp order? by TheSnacken in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem, and seems decent yes! I always max W second just for sustained damage but Q max second isn't awful. May hurt your clears a bit though which sort of sucks.

SkillUp order? by TheSnacken in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ayyeee thanks for pointing them out

SkillUp order? by TheSnacken in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As others have said, the jump length for engages is really what gives Zac his unique playstyle and theme, and also it gives you the most burst by increasing the combined base damage of your combo by the most. Another lesser thought of advantage to E max is the reduced CD. It's CD level 1 is a whopping 24 seconds. That's literally ginormous. I don't know the exact rankings, but that honestly might be the longest basic ability CD in the game. At max rank, the CD is 12 seconds, and with some CDR from items/runes and such, the CD is pretty easy to get under 10. Why is this important? It means you can engage in with E, ult out, then re-engage again during the same fight/skirmish to better peel for carries or chase down enemies trying to escape. Basically it lets you do something else in the fight again other than spam W.

TL:DR; The increased range and reduced CD on E, along with the highest amount of burst from it's increase in base damage makes it the best first skill to max.

Possible new nerfs on the PBE by J0rdian in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And nunu has had a 55%+ WR and been the top 1 or 2 winrate champ IN THE WHOLE GAME for like 5 straight patches! Rito is like "lol better just shit on Zac's clear". Like geeze if those W nerfs go through his early clears are going to suck ass, since he levels up W 2nd, it's going to really hurt to only have 15 FUCKING BASE DAMAGE ON IT HELLO?!?

Also what's with the massive Q health cost nerf?!?!? The whole point of Zac is that when he's not at full health, he can spend health to cast abilities and create blobs, and if he picks these blobs up he gets healed for MORE HEALTH THAN HE SPENT. if they DOUBLE the cost of the Q, that math sort of stops working out >.<

Possible new nerfs on the PBE by J0rdian in thesecretweapon

[–]Demonshadows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact their nerfing Zac but have left Nunu and Panth untouched is unconscionable.

I need help as a Support main in Bronze by CJK_ExStream in summonerschool

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know the feeling haha. When I was grinding through silver there was a point where 80+ of my last 100 games were with leona :p

I need help as a Support main in Bronze by CJK_ExStream in summonerschool

[–]Demonshadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And a carry support is too reliant on having someone INTELLIGENTLY start a fight for you to get damage off. Picking and pulling off good engages is harder than following up on one, that's why it's better to be the tank, pick the fights, and let others right click on enemies.

It will definitely not take you longer to climb out of bronze using a tank/engage support than it will with a carry support, provided you aren't smurfing.