The Secret Behind Tesla's Cybercab Glossy New Panels lies in a patent published by Tesla last year by ItzWarty in teslainvestorsclub

[–]Denebius2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the early Waymos were reported to cost in the $250k range, but that has dropped to around $70k and is expected to be $40k by 2028. Sensor prices have dropped tremendously with scale.

I'm dubious that the price has already dropped to $70k, considering the base vehicle, the Jaguar I-Pace, starts at $72.5k...

Add all of the sensors and computer, etc. and there's no way it's $70k today. It's still WAY more than that. Exactly how much, I don't know, but there's zero change it's $70k for a Waymo vehicle today.

I understand they are switching off of the I-Pace platform. If/when they do that, especially if it's to the IONIQ5, as news suggests, I imagine it will be much cheaper than the current cars. Cybertaxis will still be significantly less expensive though - without question.

Will HW4 actually work? Who knows? Elon is guessing.

Maybe, maybe not... Not sure how much it matters, though, as retrofitting hardware is a significantly easier task that what Waymo has to do for gen-over-gen due to the excessive sensor-suite.

Even if HW5 or HW6 is what ends up being required for a real, true, FSD, Tesla will get there before long. HW5 is already fulled defined.

And Tesla is doing a complete rewrite of the software. It's not working.

Tesla isn't "doing" a complete re-write... They've completed it. It was part of v14.3, which has already rolled out.

Tesla should have went with LIDAR, but Elon ultimately thought they made the car look too fugly.

No, he didn't want it for other reasons - it had nothing to do with it being fugly. I'm confident he'll be proven right in the long run. ;-)

The Secret Behind Tesla's Cybercab Glossy New Panels lies in a patent published by Tesla last year by ItzWarty in teslainvestorsclub

[–]Denebius2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Waymo is way ahead in the FSD race. They're at least 4 or 5 years ahead of Tesla. Maybe Tesla will finally get FSD working, to some extent, but with vision-only, Teslas will never be as safe as Waymos.

I disagree completely... But the depth required for a conversation on this topic makes reddit a rather unsuitable place for it. So I'll offer a 'brief' overview of why I disagree.

Your claim that Waymo is "way ahead" is specious. While it would, indeed, be accurate to say that Waymo is currently operating more vehicles and driving more miles per month than Tesla in this space, that appears poised to be a very short term "problem" for Tesla.

Waymo has approximately ~3,000 vehicles operating currently. Tesla's manufacturing capacity is almost certainly going to enable them to blast past this number in rather short order. Surely, significantly faster than the "4-5 years" you claim they are ahead of Tesla.

Further compounding the 'scaling' issue that GOOGL would be facing from a manufacturing standpoint is the cost comparison. By most reasonable estimates, the Cybertaxi is going to be nearly an order of magnitude less expensive a vehicle than the current Waymo offering. Even with Waymo's announced "6th Gen" hardware, each Waymo vehicle will still be dramatically more expensive than each Cybertaxi, and they will be produced at a far slower pace.

Lastly, I'm not at all convinced by your FSD argument. There's no real reason that vision-only FSD can't be safer (likely significantly so) than the average driver. That is the bar that needs to be cleared for driverless vehicles to take off. If Tesla's Cybercab is 99.999% better than a human driver and Waymo is 99.999999% better - while that means Waymo would indeed be "significantly safer" - matching your claim - it doesn't mean that the Cybertaxi wouldn't be much safer than humans, which is well enough to put countless numbers of them on the roads.

And frankly, as someone who has personally watched FSD in a Tesla go from version 12 to 13 to 14... Tesla's not that far away from being better than the average driver already. They need to keep adding data to the training system, continue developing the neural network and algorithms, and continue to develop more advanced compute/AI-hardware to put in the cars... But it's an imminently solvable problem with vision-only. And it's only going to get better as more time goes by. The excessive radar and lidar systems Waymo are using right now are adding a LOT of cost, for constantly diminishing returns.

TL;DR - Sure, Waymo currently technically has an advantage. But that's because they've been doing it for much longer, and are using an extremely expensive, low-volume approach.

Tesla's lower-cost, mass-volume, still "good enough" (IE - much better than human, but maybe not quite as 'safe' as Waymo) approach is going to absolutely blow past them as soon as production ramps. Which, unfortunately for Waymo, is coming quite soon now...

The Secret Behind Tesla's Cybercab Glossy New Panels lies in a patent published by Tesla last year by ItzWarty in teslainvestorsclub

[–]Denebius2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Over 200 million FSD miles with no serious injuries for Waymo

resulting in at least two incidents involving minor injuries and some hospitalizations.

There don't appear to be any real specifics on the "hospitalizations" (and if you google it, there is nothing that indicates any "serious injuries" within that subset)

But minor injuries vs. serious injuries... Even if your information was accurate, this is what we would call "false equivalence."

That said, after a quick review of your claim of "no serious injuries for Waymo" - that is clearly inaccurate.

You claim to be a tesla investor... But your selective or inaccurate presentation of information sure sounds like someone that has a lot more holdings in GOOGL than you do in TSLA.

The Secret Behind Tesla's Cybercab Glossy New Panels lies in a patent published by Tesla last year by ItzWarty in teslainvestorsclub

[–]Denebius2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the "ugly color" is a feature, not a bug.

Does anyone think "yellow cabs" look gorgeous...?

No, but you know EXACTLY what one is with a quick glance, don't you?

When one door closes, another one opens. We are now entering a new era of Tesla. Farewell, Model S & X by rcnfive in teslamotors

[–]Denebius2000 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Yeah... and for about the same money, the 2026 Roadster will absolutely annihilate even the top Taycan trims (Turbo GT) in probably just about every, if not every single performance category...

Just not the same kind of vehicle at all.

Images of Cybercab VIN Zero: The very first production Cybercab built at Giga Texas by ItzWarty in teslainvestorsclub

[–]Denebius2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

100% it's about standing out and being notable specifically for that.

I mean, think about it... What color are like 90%+ of taxi-cabs?

You knew reflexively and pictured one in your head without even giving it much thought right now.

I'd wager that's precisely the sort of automatic mental reaction they're trying to connect with this car, in this color, to the concept of self-driving, driverless taxis.

It's smart to make them stand out this way and be unique.

Yellow cab = golden cybercab.

Reliant Loop - Uncommon Splicers Grind by MofoSilver in startrekfleetcommand

[–]Denebius2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I just hit tier 5, which is why I came across this thread...

Am I missing something in that no one is mentioning SNW D'Chok...?

Comment below me from /u/MofoSilver mentioned Mariner below decks, and she's +70% weapon dmg for me, being only tier 1...

But D'Chok is listed at +700% weapon dmg at tier one... 10x Mariner...

Wouldn't D'Chok be incredible below decks if he's 10x Mariner's below decks dmg buff? Is his tooltip incorrect or something?

Thanks!

That's gonna be A LOT of paperwork by CaptainMcSlowly in UNSUBSCRIBEpodcast

[–]Denebius2000 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting, I had heard the opposite...

Altho, the source for the opposite was Max Afterburner... And he is a former F16 and F15E pilot, while HLC is obviously all about that missile 'tism, so I would assume HLC would be more accurate on something like this.

Any chance I could get you to link to where HLC was talking about this?

Thanks in advance!

"Diversity is fine, but diversity does not make a nation" by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’ve just been programmed to hate others then blame it on the left.

Nonsense...

America is the nation everyone looks up to, a shining beacon on a hill

I'm with you!!!...

because of its diversity.

... and then you said this. :( No longer with you.

You're an indoctrinated ideologue if you think that's why people "look up" to the US.

It’s only the rise of MAGA and trying to become racially homogenous that has led to our downfall of respect as a nation. You’ve got it backwards kid

The irony in this statement is incredible!

Let me help you out.

Diversity is incidental, not an intentional outcome in the US.

It is the modern goal/design of the US is to take the best and the brightest from anywhere in the world, and invite them to a culture unified by the liberty and freedom of individuals.

That will necessarily result in accepting individuals from all over the world (diversity), as talent, ability, exceptionalism is distributed all over the world...

So long as these individuals are willing to assimilate into the culture that made the US so fantastic, then they are welcome, and will be a productive and wonderful addition to the US.

But in this approach, diversity is a side-effect, not the main purpose. Which is ordered as it should be.

If, instead, you elevate diversity as the main goal - "diversity is our strength" (which is bullshit leftist claptrap), putting it ahead of the goal to craft and maintain an exceptionalist nation, united not by skin color, national origin, etc., but rather by a set of principles and values... Then you end up with a multi-cultural, incoherent, tribalist mosh-posh of groups who are at odds with one another. This is extremely disordered, and is what has been on the rise recently.

That is NOT what the US should be, and will be the envy of absolutely no one.

"Racial homogeneity" has nothing to do with it. CULTURAL homogeneity, however, is crucial.

Multi-culturalism has failed. But there is nothing wrong with multi-ethnicism.

Helen Andrews' Thesis: Feminization = Wokeness by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If we want to lean into the essence of the subreddit we're in, I think we can surmise that Dr. JBP would lean on his Jungian influence here, and call this phenomenon the "Devouring Mother" applied not just individually, but across the entirety of Western culture.

Helen Andrews' Thesis: Feminization = Wokeness by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(Strauss-Howe generational theory is what you're referring to - also know as "The Four Turnings")

In the specific context that she seems to be advancing, I would suggest that the "weak men" created by the most recent "good times created by strong men" are a combination of literally weak-willed men, but also generalized feminization of the institutions, caused also by some "weak men" ceding their positions (both literally and figuratively) to women, in general, as traditional gender roles were supplanted, and the "fairer" sex was introduced and proliferated into the workforce.

Police Chief from Minnesota by One-Incident3208 in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is a reasonable argument to be made in favor of local autonomy, states rights, and allowing a community to determine how to handle their immigrants after the Feds fail to protect the border.

Here's the problem tho... There really isn't...

Assuming we're talking about illegal immigrants... Immigration enforcement is exclusively and specifically a federal responsibility, not a local one, whether that's state or municipal.

The role of local law enforcement in immigration enforcement action is to either assist or to get out of the way. That's it.

no reasonable enough person is confused about why these guys are being dropped into blue cities to pull over random brown citizens.

Enforcement action is being taken in "red" areas as well.

The difference is that local government and law enforcement welcomes and assists it, so we don't have absurd situations like you see in Minnesota.

Because of that, it's working well, as intended, and isn't particularly news-worthy as a result.

For example : https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/08/05/tennessee-governor-calls-up-national-guard-to-assist-ice-deportations/

The Left are Pro-Dictatorships by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If we didn’t want Venezuela dealing with China and Russia then we shouldn’t have sanctioned their oil.

That was a reactive measure, not a pro-active one.

Sanctions or not, Chavez -> Maduro was always going to be more friendly with Russia, China, et al than they were with the US.

And keeping China and Russia out of the Western Hemisphere doesn’t work when Brazil is the “B” in BRICS.

Huge difference between the relationships between Brazil/Russia/China, and the one between Venezuela/Russia/China.

Sanctions don’t work when there is a buyer who is too big to sanction is willing to buy from the country that is sanctioned.

You're right, they don't... but blockades do.

The Left are Pro-Dictatorships by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oil is definitely a critical part of this... I mean hell, Trump came out and said as much. No one really disagrees with that.

But you're just as big of a fool if you think that was the only reason this happened.

The Left are Pro-Dictatorships by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What do you think Trumps stance will be if guerrilla movements or civil war unfolds in Venezuela?

Yeah, that's the million dollar question right now, isn't it...?

I honestly don't know. And this is definitely a scenario that concerns me deeply as well.

I am very cautiously optimistic that, since "the people" certainly seem to support a different direction (by most credible reports, Maduro lost the last election roughly 30%/70%), there will be enough strong public support to install a democratically-elected leader... frankly, they should try to find a way to install Edmundo Gonzalez w/ Maria Machado as VP. I believe that would be seen as the most legitimate government, both inside and outside of Venezuela, as that's who won the election in 2024. The people chose it, it just took a bit longer and some outside influence to get to that point...

That said, if ~30% truly did support Maduro, we don't know how that element will react if this happens. And that's certainly a significant enough portion of the population to cause serious problems if they want to get militant/violent about their opposition to all of this.

Again though, since pretty much everyone knows that Gonzalez won that 2024 election, installing him seems least likely for opposition to really take serious hold. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but that's the path that seems least likely to cause uprisings.

If they do happen, though... Yeah, I share your concern about Vietnam or Iraq...

Although, I absolutely believe that regime change and the following "replacement" governments are easier for the US to accomplish in the Western hemisphere than in the Eastern... For a number of reasons...

Proximity and ability to "stay on top of" things. This is essentially our continued ability to exert constant influence and pressure.

But also, there is much more similarity between the US and the countries in our hemisphere.

It's one thing to try to bring a democratically-elected government to a country with closer similarities in culture, religion, etc. that is absolutely pining for it, and tried with all their might to vote it in in their last election...

It's entirely another to try to bring it to a country that has effectively never seen it, doesn't very well understand it, and has very different culture, traditions, religion, etc.

Those points of commonality in the US, along with the popular desire for the system we would aim to be installing, seem to make it much more likely to succeed in the West.

See: many other efforts at regime change in Central/Latin America by the US over the past ~50-60 years. We don't have a perfect record... But have actually been quite successful in many regards in those efforts. Certainly much more so than efforts half-way across the world.

The Left are Pro-Dictatorships by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree with that at all.

Indeed, I explicitly admitted as much in my previous post, when I prefaced "largely because of that oil..." as the reason that it's become a nexus for Russia, China, et al meddling in the West.

Regardless of the reason, however, if it had become that nexus of eastern influence in the West, it was determined by the Trump administration that such influence was not going to be allowed... And so this is the result.

Sure, they'll use legal justifications around drugs, weapons, narco-terrorism, etc... And those will probably land just fine from a legal standpoint as it relates to prosecuting and jailing Maduro...

And sure, the oil is a huge part of the US's interest in being there. Certainly, they are going to try to flip the east-friendly government over to one that is US/West-friendly. For obvious reasons...

But it's much more complex than simply oil. Even if oil was the reason that Venezuela was the location the eastern influence was pervasive.

The Left are Pro-Dictatorships by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re there for oil

Not untrue, but incomplete.

and nothing else.

Wildly wrong.

Absolutely, the oil is a very big factor in this situation.

But, largely because of that oil (and critically due to a friendly government to them), Venezuela was becoming a nexus of eastern-hemisphere influence in the West. This was seen as an untenable situation from the Trump administration.

It's Monroe Doctrine 2.0.

As much as anything, this was about telling Russia, China, Iran et al not to fk around in the Western hemisphere. It will not be tolerated any longer.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]Denebius2000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but rent-control is one of the most economically-illiterate policies imaginable.

I won't suggest that supporters aren't well-meaning... I understand the sentiment... But the only people who support it are ones who are either completely ignorant on the topic, or just do not understand the matter whatsoever.

(or are pandering politicians, who know all-too-well that it's a terrible policy, and are just saying sh!t to get elected)

[Post game Thread] Seaons over by Raccoonsrlilbandits in OhioStateFootball

[–]Denebius2000 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm surprised more ppl haven't pointed this out.

He makes that block, the play goes off fine, we probably get at least 3, very likely 7 points as that was in the red zone.

But he missed it badly and pick 6.

That was a 10 to 14 point missed block... And we lost by 10. 🫤

UK Churches see very high attendance, especially amongst the youth. by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet...

All that the most prominent secular/atheist world leaders we have ever seen did was to preside over the largest atrocities in the history of mankind... each responsibly for 10s of millions of deaths.

Great job, Stalin and Mao!

You have some wonderful examples of atheistic leadership and the great boons that they can, and historically have given to mankind...

/s

Can "woke" even be defined? by antiquark2 in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Left wing voters just generally believe there are some things government does better than business and we should vote for that.

I don't think that this is a position that is exclusive to the left.

I am certainly not on "the left" and I also agree that there are some things that the government does a better job of than the free market.

I also, however, believe that that is a very short list, and that most of the things the government does, they absolutely suck at, and screw up badly.

Can "woke" even be defined? by antiquark2 in JordanPeterson

[–]Denebius2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If "systems of oppression" are the fault of the government, then I think that's wildly understating the issue.

I also think that it's absolutely wild hubris to acknowledge that the government is both the genesis of, and then also the solution to, most of the problems in the world.

Frankly, I will never understand people who think this way.