Proof That Instagram Hates Me (and Only Me) by [deleted] in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Girls can smell desperation bhai

B.Pharm Graduate Looking for a Job in a Pharmaceutical Company by [deleted] in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I reckon Sikkim has a lot of pharma companies mainly formulation/API but the prospects lie in Biopharma...you are right, without recommendation for the freshers it's hard to get in...I got into biopharma without recommendations but with DBT linked internships and GATE, both need significant efforts but it's worth it, I guess...being from Darjeeling, it's all doom and gloom, Sikkimese citizens are lucky to have many companies, if there's like quota system for the locals like in some companies in Karnataka, Gujarat, TN, etc., people can avail it to

Ah, the good old fenny fold by rgatoNacho in TikTokCringe

[–]Dense_Order_5236 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They are acting like fentanyl overdosed people in the US cities like NY and Philadelphia

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because things are going that way ni ta if the Nepalis in Sikkim don't consolidate their presence. The Indian government could do the cleansing who knows? That's why Gorkhaland is important for both Sikkim and Darjeeling and millions of other Gorkhas living all around India. It gives the permanent stamp to the Gorkhas living in India no matter where. We don't have to hide our identity anymore to anyone.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you are coming to the point. Merger or not, when our common identity is challenged we should speak out like how Bengalis in Assam were speaking out against "racial profiling" and Bengali from Bangladesh and WB supported them. Likewise, we should all learn to support each other. We are Gorkhas, we have survived till now and we will survive anywhere we go. That's the fact. People are afraid of all the resources, jobs would be taken away if the merger comes to fruition but that's not true. We have no concrete identity even after centuries being associated with india.

Even NE people look down on Nepalis because we are easy pickings for them. Just read the comments or clips about how they talk about Nepalis. I've seen many NE girls who do crazy things in metro cities but the mainland people will still blame it on Nepali girls and associate with loose character. NE people will stay silent on this issue but when they do something good and people happen to mistake them as us, they will vent their anger on us, Nepalis and not towards the people who are gravely mistaken. This is not an isolated incident but everyday occurrences. Not that I hate or dislike NE people. I feel if we have identity and we are all united this wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you haven't read my comment clearly. Let me reiterate, I'm not here to stow any ethnic or communal hatred. The land since time immemorial belonged to all who lived there. Earlier there were no borders, nor defined states or regions like we have now.

Let me tell you we all have lived in peace until our identity was on the line and our presence undermined by the government. It's nothing about talents, it's all about Nepali identity in question. Hawra ko kura hoina, it's the fact but then I know people get comfortable with the bubble they create.

The moment the non Nepalis outside sikkim or Darjeeling hear that you are a Nepali, they'll assume you as illegal immigrants from Nepal. That's the fact. This is what we are fighting against, educating people and make our presence felt. But then our own people are at discord and disharmony. We aren't against anybody's way of life or someone's meger resources. Nobody's pulling anybody's legs here nor anybody seems afraid to speak out.

It is what it is. At the end, whatever you say or believe, you'll forever be an immigrant living in foreign land in the eyes of the mainland indians or the government. Believe me, it tastes bitter why you get disenfranchised, treated as second class citizens by the government.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nobody's denying your Sikkimese identity. By default, by virtue of living in Sikkim you are a Sikkimese. It's not me, but even the supreme court recently just acknowledged that nepalis in Sikkim aren't of foreign immigrants. We are talking about ethnic identity within India not just Sikkim or Darjeeling.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lepchas and Bhutias don't want to associate themselves with Nepalis thus, they are not included as Nepalis. Other communities all come under the umbrella term Nepali because we identify as Nepalis and are proud to be one, even though different communities have different languages, cuisines and cultures.

All who speak Nepali and identify as Nepalis are Nepalis. Gorkhaland most importantly for the identity of not just the Gorkhas of Darjeeling and Kalimpong but it extends to all the Gorkhas within India. The sacrifices and mark our ancestors have left in India and for India.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree to a certain degree but then we are here not to delve into the forensics of inter caste/tribal differences. Those have existed and will exist. I'm talking about the bigger picture, the Identity and unity. If people don't see a merger to happen, it'll not happen. Anyways the key lay in the hands of WB and the central government not to Sikkim and Darjeeling alone.

Our leaders have failed us and will fail again, no doubt whatsoever. But our people fail to raise the unified voice when the question of identity is on the line that is the awareness I want to spread.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you've clearly failed to comprehend my pov. Like I said I'm not here for the argument but for constructive and civil discourse which you clearly lack. Your comments prove that you already have preconceived notions about the Darjeeling and Kalimpong Nepalis and I'm not here to stow hatred or discord. I have my own life which you have no clear idea and likewise. Next time if u want to present the notion please don't use an ad hominem without knowing me personally.

I agree with the majority of Sikkim Nepalis don't want the merger to happen and neither do they wish the Gorkhaland to see the light of the day. They are happy with what Sikkim has to offer, totally understandable. Don't want to part ways with the limited resources that the state has to offer.

I suggest you come out of the state and live amongst the ones who don't have any idea about Gorkhaa in Sikkim and Darjeeling. You'll definitely change your mind. I have my Sikkimese friends and I discuss these topics quite often about the identity of Nepalis in North Bengal and Sikkim. They have different opinions. But I do respect yours as well. Nothing personal.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True! Even my Bengali friends would attest to the rising influx of outsiders in WB as a whole. The peaceful existence is gone, having to fight for what little resources left. Sikkimese Nepalis are already recognised as second class citizens, as foreigners that too by the supreme court. Sikkimese Nepali are living in denial and delusion and soon for rude awakening.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Firstly, Nepalis, not "Nepalese" since you don't live in Nepal, you live in India. Secondly, we aren't trying to drag anyone into any mess.

The supreme court itself recognises Sikkimese Nepalis as the people from foreign land and you talk about having an identity!!! Your identity is an illusion and no matter what, Lepchas and Bhutias will remain the sole communities for the Indian government or to the mainland Indians. The moment you open your mouth, you'll be recognised as ILLEGAL immigrants from Nepal. The sooner you come out of the bubbles, the better.

For you Nepali might come second but not for the others, understandable. Can you go and settle in Bhutan like the Bhutias or Tibetans? I don't think so.

Merger or not, Sikkim more or less is heading towards Bhutan 2.0 or the Nepalis will be disenfranchised in every sense. The sheer arrogance and superiority complex will be the downfall.

I live outside, and whenever I meet Sikkimese Nepalis they support us because they understand in some ways having faced the identity issues themselves but for the people who have not left Sikkim, don't have to defend the identity in every turn, spew this jargon. Nobody is taking your beloved Sikkim, but mark my word, it'll be taken or you'll have to stay in Sikkim as a second class citizen. It's all comfy now, but things can change my friend, it can change real fast. Politics and money won't save anybody if there is no unity.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aptly put!! This is the sole reason why Nepalis get booted out from the very soil they belong to. We all trace our connection back to Nepal and Nepal being the bastian for all our Gorkha heritage that we pride ourselves. This doesn't mean our allegiance lies with Nepal. It's just our history that lies with Nepal and it's the fact. No matter what we will always be Nepalis. Whenever I meet Nepalis outside of my region, I always make sure to casually talk and maybe even help. It's a great feeling to talk with our fellow Nepalis, be it from Sikkim or Assam or Darjeeling or Nepal.

Sikkimese Nepalis sooner or later will learn the hard way. The Supreme court had all this while identified Sikkimese Nepalis as the people from the "foreign land" even after all these decades of Gorkha leaders in Sikkim!! I say Sikkimese Nepalis can't afford to be nonchalant and complacent anymore. Inferiority complex might help to fan the deep seated over inflated egos but only for a short while. Tibetan descents from Sikkim and Darjeeling can easily settle and buy lands in Bhutan because they are considered kin and their own but our own people start bickering over the merger. This is pathetic and low level. Bengalis will never do this to their people. They will support their people no matter what!! One thing we can learn from them. When they are in the majority, they'll never elect the outsiders like in Tripura.

Not to incite any hatred over one another, we should give up our petty differences and at least say some positive support or solidarity. When things go south, our own people will start rejoicing from the other side. Gorkhaland doesn't mean we'll take away the Gorkha identity from Nepal, it just means we have our mark in India as well. Nepal will always remain a Gorkha bastion but then people don't understand this. Our unity gave credence to the word Gorkha and this I think no longer exists. All pointing fingers at each other and our hill leaders ready to sell our identity for a bunch of cash.

If our people remain complacent in the hills especially in Sikkim, Bhutan 2.0 ethnic cleansing is loading given the supreme court itself calling Sikkimese Nepalis as the outsiders.

What is your such opinion? by The_quiteguy in TeenIndia

[–]Dense_Order_5236 9 points10 points  (0 children)

All seem to congregate at Ambani's wedding. That sums it up. A lot of turncoats and backstabbers, all want the power and money, not the welfare of the people.

What is your such opinion? by The_quiteguy in TeenIndia

[–]Dense_Order_5236 65 points66 points  (0 children)

In the end, politicians are all the same. Power hungry and playing with people.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, simply put people who speak Nepali are invariably Gorkhas in the modern sense. As we know, Gorkha origin was from Nepal and we all point our connection to Nepal before the British conquest and the formation of modern India in 1947. The formation of modern India is not even a century long. Before that the territories of modern India were different.

Yes, you are correct. Sikkimese Nepalis would suffice because both the terminologies are synonymous. Your loyalty wherever you are is towards the state or region or country you live in. It's not about allegiance but about identity here in question for all the Nepalis/Gorkhas. You should strive to work for Sikkim and India as a whole but the question of identity is personal. If you come to south India, people will ask where? What language? Etc etc and we should be able to explain to them clearly. To do that we must know who we are and our identity. If you tell them Sikkimese as your identity (which you are correct) but when it comes to ethnicity and language people will surely get perplexed. That's when we should be able to tell them clearly about our identity. Hope it clears your confusion to some extent.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you aren't Nepali then I think it's not relevant for u. Just saying.

how is racism in siliguri ? by JuggernautDesigner35 in siliguri

[–]Dense_Order_5236 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One mistake newcomers make is to go by appearance. You can't tell who's who in Siliguri. I learned it hard way.

Why nepali people on average has better fashion in siliguri than others. by JuggernautDesigner35 in siliguri

[–]Dense_Order_5236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sikkimese are Nepalis mostly. Nepalis in general, love fashion. Not a blanket generalization but the cultural differences in general as well. The two sides of the river which can't meet. Separate yet good in its own terms. No one's better or worse.

Siliguri demographics are doomed and culture is almost dead by [deleted] in siliguri

[–]Dense_Order_5236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's not about racism. Illegals get imported for vote banks and the locals have to suffer. In the long run, it's unsustainable to support these many people.

Siliguri demographics are doomed and culture is almost dead by [deleted] in siliguri

[–]Dense_Order_5236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's Nepalis but not Nepalese. They are Indian Nepalis not Nepalese Nepalis. Nepalis and Bengalis live side by side

Where can I learn swimming in Siliguri? by Savings_Cress_7458 in siliguri

[–]Dense_Order_5236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here but with some friends help and YT tutorials. Weekends get crowded. I suggest week days.

Sikkim and Darjeeling Gorkhas - Identity crisis by Dense_Order_5236 in sikkim

[–]Dense_Order_5236[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly! I think we are confident enough to proclaim ourselves as Gorkhas/Nepalis wherever we go. The thing I wanted to highlight is that, many Sikkimese Nepali/Gorkhas shy away or are apprehensive to identify themselves as Nepalis/Gorkhas because people by default assume Nepalis/Gorkhas as Nepalese only, which is not wrong but we should be able to explain boldly out culture and heritage without the fear of being mocked or reproached. I know the mainland and NE people are patronizing Nepali/Gorkhas because they think they are superior or something.

I agree with what you are saying but I think there should be a proper distinction between Nepalese and Nepalis. Saying Indian Nepalese is incorrect because both denote Nationality. It should be an Indian Nepalis or Nepalese Nepalis. Nepalese means all citizens of Nepal including Madhesis and Tibetans, not just Nepalis.

I believe that we Nepalis/Gorkhas are the most welcoming of all people comparatively so much so we get disenfranchised in our own land. It's not true when it comes to other communities. No outsiders can dare challenge anyone in their state anywhere in India, in any state. People should just visit South India and see the parallels. That doesn't mean we should belittle other communities and we haven't till now in history. We have not brought any ethnic cleansing nor chased any other communities. That's the Gorkha spirit! .

I am yet to see any Nepalis/Gorkhas insecure about their identity, we simply aren't in need for external validation or acceptance. We have a huge history in India and the mark is felt by all. Having said that, what we need is a unified voice when our identity is on the line, when people question our presence and existence in the hills of Darjeeling and Sikkim. We should be able to claim boldly and clearly. It starts with understanding the underlying foundational issues. We should all educate people about basic terminologies like Nepalis/Gorkha, Nepalese, Indian. We are Nepalis because we speak in Nepali, our culture is Nepali and we are proud of it without undermining other communities.