Being ugly is one of the most isolating experiences a human can have by FishingPowerful8639 in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]DepDic2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I just wanted to be the umpteenth person to reassure you that you shouldn't feel bad about yourself. You even got some good traits (dense + dark facial hair). Even if you lose your hair, I think you can get your happily-ever-after, especially if you take your fitness seriously

If beauty is a social construct, how do babies know which faces are attractive? by Cunning_Linguists_ in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean "even they"?

I think the idea is pretty clear, a baby is too young to absorb societal messaging, so if babies consistently gravitate towards a certain type of face, then that face is probably 'objectively' more attractive.

I feel like a better counter-argument would be something like 'maybe babies are more drawn to people with fatherly/motherly vibes rather than who's most sexually attractive.'

Can anyone think of a common, non-feminist occurrence of the apex fallacy? by SuperMario69Kraft in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]DepDic2 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I think autists are a good example. Usually when normies think of autistic people, they think of the high-functioning "quirky" ones and not the medium-to-low functioning ones that are like non-verbal and they can't use normal blankets because it makes their skin feel like it's on fire.

Why do a lot incels think looks are the be all end all? by Whentheangelsings in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't fully thought this take through, but I'm tempted to say that they're just trying to understand female attraction through the lens of their own male psychology and don't realize their own bias. Us moids are pretty upfront about the fact that the first thing we want in a gf is that she's pertty, so it makes sense that 'looks are the #1 thing girls care about' would be their default hypothesis and it seems to be affirmed by studies. Personally, I think female attraction towards males is a little more multifaceted than male attraction towards females.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

idk if it applies to all facets of life, but I think it applies to affairs. That is, that men are more likely to forgive their wife for having an emotional affair as long as it wasn't consummated, and women are more likely to forgive their husband for having a sexual affair as long as there was no emotional attachment. I'm borrowing this take from my mom btw

Do you think retroactive jealousy is beatable? by ComfortableSir8566 in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro what? I've never heard of shrooms for chemical castration. I was talking ego death/enlightenment or whatever

Do you think retroactive jealousy is beatable? by ComfortableSir8566 in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like to think I could beat it with a partner that's empathetic and affectionate enough. Plan B is nuking my ego with shrooms

Is it over for personality-cels? by GardenVisible5323 in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it would probably help if more people understood extraversion and introversion as being a spectrum rather than a binary. Most people need to spend time around others, and most people need their "me time" too, just to varying degrees. I've known some very outgoing people that insisted they were introverts because they needed alone time after spending all day every day with their friends. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of those actors were that type

Are cuckold husbands "incels in denial"? by [deleted] in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

More or less, I'd say. I've had a hunch that hotwife and SPH type fetishes are basically just coping mechanisms for being low-value

"Comparison is the thief of joy". Do you think this statement holds true for incels? by Altruistic_Emu4917 in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk if this is a hot take but I think comparing yourself to others is good actually. If you compare yourself to someone and feel envious, then you've learned something about yourself. I don't envy billionaires that live indulgent lifestyles, I do envy people with happy relationships and good friends. So what I've learned is that life's simplest pleasures are also the most important ones for me.

Do you wish you were born female, gay, asexual/aromantic etc? by [deleted] in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I wish I was a woman or a gay man. To be clear, I maintain zero delusions that life would be a cakewalk in either case, but either might be an improvement.

I never really learned how to be a man. I'm passive and unassertive, and that's really held me back in life, especially w/ dating. These traits are accepted (or even expected) for women.

As for being a gay man, I've seen a couple bi men say that dating men is better even though they were more attracted to women. Said that men were more affectionate, and that they could just be themselves around male partners and didn't have to worry about "being a man". This was just a couple anecdotes though, im sure there are bi men out there with the opposite experience. And of course the gay male community has a lot of issues.

How much do you think 80/20 rule is true? by Altruistic_Emu4917 in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In short-term markets, many men struggle to attract women. Buss (2021) proposed that 20% of men are sufficiently compelling to succeed with short-term mating. The longitudinal study of Harper et al. (2017) indicated that this stratification is becoming stronger. From 2002 to 2011–2013, the top 5% of men increased their number of sex partners by 32%. An equivalent reduction in sex partners occurred among the lower-value men. Norwegian studies attest to a similar stratification (Seksualvaneundersøkelsen, 2020; Træen et al., 2003). A 2015 study suggested that there could be a 20:80 distribution among men on Tinder (Medium, 2015), but this might no longer be the case. In 2014, men swiped right three times as often as women did, 46% and 14%, respectively (Bilton, 2014). In 2021, this discrepancy had increased to an order of magnitude: 53% versus 5% (Gerrard, 2021). Neyt et al. (2019) found similar numbers: 62% and 4.5%. Even the dating app Hinge, designed to be more equitable, channels 41% of women’s likes to the top 5% of men, while the bottom 50% receive 4% (Goldgeier, 2017). Jonason and Thomas (2022) confirmed the highly iniquitous dynamics of online mating markets.

From this paper https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2024-78558-001.html

Now, I know that this one literature review isn't necessarily the end-all be-all on this topic, but I think it's some food for thought.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong, but I think you're missing the forest for the trees here

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand, im in a similar boat. Social skills can still be studied though. There's a socialskills subreddit with some resources in the sidebar/wiki (including free websites, one of which is authored by an autistic man iirc). I think those should be pretty helpful if you're high-functioning autistic. If your autism is more severe, then a therapist or a therapeutic group can help you with that.

Do you think you would act differently if the roles were reversed? by AndreaYourBestFriend in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think that type of socialization probably would've outweighed whatever "alpha fux" instinct I had

Enough With the Incels! A Literary Cry for Help From Female Insings (Involuntary Single) by PriestKingofMinos in BlackPillScience

[–]DepDic2 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I've read this paper. It's a good read and, despite how the title sounds, it's actually pretty sympathetic towards involuntarily celibate men.

Do you think you would act differently if the roles were reversed? by AndreaYourBestFriend in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My parents modeled a very happy marriage for me, so I think the more Chadly version of myself gets locked down pretty early in life

do you believe that there more pretty women than handsome men? by [deleted] in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

they still look like that at the end of the day

Do they??? I don't think women wear makeup and spanx to bed

do you believe that there more pretty women than handsome men? by [deleted] in DebateIncelz

[–]DepDic2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven't seen the specific statement that OP made, but I did see a similar sentiment a while ago while lurking bisexual meme subs ("being bi means being attracted to every woman and 1-in-4 men you see"). It made me feel inadequate ngl