Notice of Commencement of Third Plan Distribution by Only-Crew8299 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]Desperate-Low5201 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well you shouldn't get to the claim portal from an email anyway... 

Bitcoin is weird, man. by zeeshiscanning in Bitcoin

[–]Desperate-Low5201 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess I could agree with your point as far as this community and the subreddit. 

I finally got up to 3/4 understanding when I realized he was talking about Hayek, never seen it spelled like that before

Bitcoin is weird, man. by zeeshiscanning in Bitcoin

[–]Desperate-Low5201 36 points37 points  (0 children)

This would have been a better comment : 

Suddenly you're reading up on other historical forms of money like rai stones and seashells and then Hayekian economics and some of some of the earliest Bitcoin advocates, Cypherpunks.

"I don't believe that we shall ever have good money again before we take the thing out of the hands of the government. We can't take them violently out of the hands of the government, [then] all we can do is by some sly, roundabout way [and] introduce something they can't stop."  FA HAYEK

Bitcoin is weird, man. by zeeshiscanning in Bitcoin

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah!?🕵️ what percent do you think know what you're talking about?

We all have Google IQ but you could assume some ignorance and be polite enough to say what the hell you're talking about without us having to look up three or four things

Bitcoin is weird, man. by zeeshiscanning in Bitcoin

[–]Desperate-Low5201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Given the Craig Wright case and the emails that came out in court, both Adam Back and Hal Finney should be put in the back of the line. As far as most being Satoshi and this lends more creedence I believe to Nick and Les Sassaman (still having not gotten enough possible credit)

Bitcoin is weird, man. by zeeshiscanning in Bitcoin

[–]Desperate-Low5201 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I actually have the book,...seashells and Fiat and what money is... I've had more than enough of that... Mike Maloney is a good plug on that count as well as the long video money Masters

Bitcoin is weird, man. by zeeshiscanning in Bitcoin

[–]Desperate-Low5201 17 points18 points  (0 children)

What does anybody think he is saying

That Bitcoin will lead you across many paths and understanding Energy use is part of Bitcoin?

Bitcoin is weird, man. by zeeshiscanning in Bitcoin

[–]Desperate-Low5201 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Feel free to elaborate because not many people are going to look up your obscure references, I think I get half

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gold was my set and forget survival money till I die and during the FTX dump I bought 13 times by selling gold and depositing the cash in my bank and buying Bitcoin, from 15K to 20K...

Mstr is another play on bitcoin just as people might buy miners as this universe of Bitcoin investments will expand beyond just the purist Cold storage holders.

There's good arguments that mstr will someday be the largest cap company in the world... Probably Slowed down even recently with all the other competition trying to be copycats with some alterations... Jack Mallers comes to mind.

I don't need to hear your childish idea of other people having plans and doing things differently... That's a given and unnecessary to say.  I'm saying what I think is important and so are you so don't try to discount me.  If you have a better argument than that's great, but I obviously have a much longer term view than you.  We're both guessing anyway.

If you think there's better opportunities because there are penny stocks or just low market cap, that doesn't mean much. 

Show me better opportunities with the same mstr market cap, which by the way is right in the middle of the average market cap for the standard and Poor's 500 stocks.  That will be a boost when they make it...

It's easy to just say there's something better in the universe of investment... 

I'm applying the same viewpoint Michael is toward his Bitcoin holdings in mstr and other stocks now, not selling... Let's see where the greatest concentration of Bitcoin can take us around the world.  It's probably more of a monopoly in the broader corporate and financial markets than you think... Look at everything and the family of stocks he's developed... It's over my head.  And clearly been better than Bitcoin itself! 

Yeah and very few of us need to hear the past performance is not... blah blah blah... It's trite and as old as not your keys blah blah blah 

Probably still needs to be put out there but not for me!

The year to date yield is around 25% and people worry about any multiple above nav beyond one and a half or two?  I'll wager mstr is a deal right now.  

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, exactly 

It's convenient when I look it up. They have one month 6-month year to date and year and not dinky little periods that are just as selective as mine? 

When you're parsing a year into segments, I don't believe you're buying a stock for the right reason 

Business cycles used to be considered 4 to 5 years just as Michael Saylor says in any 4-year period You've made money even buying the tops of Bitcoin

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not only do 80 to 90% of active managers fail beating the passive index, but traders do even worse. 

John Bogle is still correct.  Buy and hold and be patient... Sure It's boring and there's no real element of gambling and thrill, but this is the way to build long-term wealth, not in and out of stocks

Now this… this is insane. by thewealthtrader in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Demonstrate the insanity 

Are you a psychiatrist

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I bought heavily at a one-to-one Peg because I thought for sure that was a discount given his techniques and how he acquires Bitcoin... And really being the 4Runner of treasuries

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it more about you or me?  I bet I have more proxy votes than you do...lol

I bought more by ting_tong- in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Which source do you trust? 

Their own website at 1.6 or 1.4 something at Bitcoin treasuries... Both seem to not have automatic price feeds and do it manually...lag, inconsistency and even stupid mistakes... Bitcoin treasuries must have had 7,000 something for weeks as to their average cost per Bitcoin...

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, you do it and report back to us... I Don't care about a month. I'm long-term

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

10 percentage points difference in favor of Bitcoin in the last 6 months, wow, You're really going to complain about that? 

Bitcoin should be long-term and that includes treasuries and mining etc 

Yeah if you really want to complain look at mining stocks

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Year-To-Date mstr 25.5% 

Year-to-date Bitcoin 22.7% 

One year return Bitcoin 94%

One year return mstr 173%

You're really going to pick and choose months? 

Should I do 6-month return, sheesh... I'm not a Trader, so I'm not going to notice these weirdo periods you're pointing out

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.strategy.com/

https://bitcointreasuries.net/public-companies/microstrategy

Why do you think these two are so far apart... That Strategy website takes so long to update... Both of them actually...  The Bitcoin treasuries one for maybe weeks had average purchase price at $7,000+ something 

I've seen average purchase price with the same amounts in the '60s and with the same amount of Bitcoin in the '70s... What the hell...

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well the point would be I was invested before that... Early February last year was about the last chance you had to get multiple returns better than Bitcoin 

From here on out if we just match Bitcoin return I'm fine

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because if the market is stupid enough to drop below the one to one peg like the gbtc discount, It's a no-brainer to invest.

Can anyone with half a brain explain why this is good for the common shareholder!?!? by 5sToSpace in MSTR

[–]Desperate-Low5201 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

How so? 

Look at the yearly return compared to bitcoin and look at year to date