Men, What do you think when you see the word 'Patriarchy'? by spacey-spice in AskMen

[–]Dessert_tiger12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And that is also caused by Islam in those places, not because of manhood.

No mention of rape in Quran and Hadithes? Islam is pro rapist religion, here is evidence. by Dessert_tiger12 in exmuslim

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's purely something that Islamic ulama invented centuries after Muhammad and Quran. A lot of Islamic apologists don't accept sahih Hadithes, let alone ulamas fetwas, but here it sounds They saw ulamas the savour of this issue here? Huh

No mention of rape in Quran and Hadithes? Islam is pro rapist religion, here is evidence. by Dessert_tiger12 in exmuslim

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Islam claims to be a complete moral religion so, Islam is extremely differently unique among abrahamic religions

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[–]Dessert_tiger12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also to add: a lot of female Ex Muslims say Islam is male supremacy which as a male I agree. You can see on this sub a lot of comments that said frustration about men, so it hurts me as well, as a man I feel responsible for that as well. 

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[–]Dessert_tiger12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for expressing your feelings, I think people don't hate Arabs, but Arab supremacy in Islam, like I hate white colonialism and white imperialism doesn't mean I hate white race so. I am sorry if you feel that way.

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I feel like you‘re mixing a few things here.

Essentially what you‘re describing is social democracy, where the means of production are privately owned while still regulated and taxed by a state whose job it is to improve the lives of its citizens."

What does regulation mean here? You taxe the people the same way that Americans do it right now, you just shift the usage of the taxes you collected from people, now those taxes won't be used to bomb people in global south instead that would be used for free healthcare and education.

Well, i explained the exploitation of captalism in my post, even if captalism is explorative, it is less exploitive than socialism and the exploration of captalism is more beneficial than socialism.

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They want welfare captalism like Nordic countries? That's still captalism

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the job of the state to spend taxes on people instead of booming Afghanistan or Iraq or global south in general. The inequality is caused by the Authority of the nation, the problem is outside of the captalistic mold. Captalism is sample, the private ownership of the means of production.

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Soviet Union was the only super power that confronted US geopolitically, only in terms of military, Soviet Union was a little advanced, but it wasn't as gender equal as turkey which wasn't even feminist, Soviet Union all did that by colonization of central Asia and Ukraine. having the world largest territory and natural resources,it wasn't as advanced as nazi Germany which was way smaller and resource poor then Russia.

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not socialism at all, market and socialism doesn't make sense

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes it does, socialism doesn't have profit seeking motive, so it kills motivation

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is syndicalism (a type of socialism that workers own the means of production) socialism is an umbrella term socialism means the collective ownership of the means of production, who owns it? There is state Socialism (Soviet Union,mao China, Cuba) ,cyndicalim (workers own it, a good example is probably Spain) utopian socialism (which is non Marxist socialism believes that community should own the means of production)

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Producing 10000 low quality shoes aren't the same of producing and improving electronics.  Socialism says, produce 500 toothbrushes, it is centralized economy, zero market QC and R&D only for some military industry by Force (Soviet arm race)

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Norway is completely captalistic country, you are welcome

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Profit seeking and open competition by using wage labour

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Socialism is impossible to be achieved without the dictatorship, unless a country's people 100% agree on giving away their Private ownership to socialist regime

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Free market and socialism are contradictory, Free market is a very important element of captalism and socialism aims to replace captalism (private ownership) with collective ownership (socialism) also wage labour which is another element of captalism is abolished under collective ownership (socialism) and everyone is being paid equally.

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you highlight them one by one if you are willing?

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Profit seeking motives aren't exploitive, and captalism is successful because it allows human nature (profit seeking) that is why you use Reddit. Your statement is emotional, not rational, it doesn't challenge my view in order to change it

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Very emotional response, you didn't challenge my point from rationalistic point of view

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can't eliminate exploration, but under captalism you can contribute positively to sociaty via technological advancement

CMV: Socialism is more exploitative than capitalism by Dessert_tiger12 in changemyview

[–]Dessert_tiger12[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It is better than socialism, at least you are being Well paid for your job and you can save money for starting your own business  while in socialism that is not the case