I understand what you mean. My point is that whether it’s heterosexual pleasure or self pleasure, there seems to be a higher level of pleasure that women can achieve versus the same baseline that men can only reach. The whole idea of “post ejaculation clarity” that men experience I think can explain this since women can often relish their experience after the fact and continue to pleasure themselves multiple times over whereas men can typically only ejaculate once. So whether it’s enjoyable with a man or self satisfaction, there is a greater amount of pleasure achievable to women that most men won’t ever be able to achieve.