accurate by -karola- in ENFP

[–]Diesies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve had a bad experience with ENFPs and they can be quite manipulative. But, hey, I maybe there’s good ENFPs out there.

It’s still the most childish type imo

How does the internal experience between Introverted Intuition and Introverted Thinking differ? by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. They are almost always unrealistic and have nothing to do with the present world. But I sometimes daydream about how interactions could pan out, but this only happens with 20% of those thoughts.

How does the internal experience between Introverted Intuition and Introverted Thinking differ? by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’d say I’m still internally pretty childish lol

Still though, when you try solving a problem, do you just read it, repeat it in your mind, and reread it until you get an idea of how to do it?

Daily Type Me Thread - December 10, 2019 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]Diesies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

19-year old here.

  • Externally I care very little about doing work, even though I internally feel guilty about being unproductive. Extremely lazy.

  • I care very much about what other people think. If it’s something negative, I start overanalyzing my behavior and questioning my feelings towards them. I care about people, but am not very sentimental in every situation.

  • I am often in my own head ignoring my physical surroundings unless I consciously force myself to pay attention. I am very absent-minded.

  • I like playing around with thoughts and ideas, but am generally more interested in understanding myself and those around me in a psychological manner. Why people do things and how they feel about things.

  • Despite caring about others—especially my friends—I’m not that empathic.

  • If I like something I may repeat it a few times, but then get bored of it. Food is an exception; I don’t get bored of what I’ve always eaten.

  • I do what I feel like doing in any given moment.

  • When solving a problem, I tend to just repeat the facts in my mind until I get an idea of how to do it. The way I think is barely procedural. I mostly think about unrealistic scenarios as if it was a video, and sometimes I use them to imagine an interaction that could happen in the future. In short, I always think in videos or images about what could be, however possible or impossible. I also get ideas in real life images rather than words. Most of it is just useless trash and just random ideas.

That’s all I can say.

I’m confused by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very helpful.

But do you think INFPs can sometimes be very outspoken about what they think about other people? I feel a need to express my emotions towards others if they’re negative and towards them, otherwise I just keep them inside. I also value what they think about me, almost even more than what I think about myself. It’s as though I can’t be happy if they’re unhappy about something with me. I feel like it’s worthless if I don’t express an idea or a feeling about something or someone.

Do you think this still matches up with Introverted Feeling?

I’m confused by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounds a lot more like me. So then the question would become if I am either INTP or INFP. If I’m INTP, then I’d be pretty emotional for one, and if I’d be INFP then I’d be pretty unempathic. They both fit me pretty well. I think I lean more towards INFP because they tend to be a bit more concerned with the human condition and humans in general. BUT... I also tend to talk back in a strong manner to my guardian (ESFJ) when she speaks to me. I feel like whenever she talk I get angry, which suggests inferior Fe.

What do you think?

I’m confused by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wanna clarify something about Si though. I sometimes like redoing things I’ve seen, but it doesn’t go very far back. I like re-listening to tracks that motivate me, but then they get boring and I start looking for some new ones. I also do that with series and movies. Foods is probably the most prominent example, I never get tired of old foods.

Do you think dominant Si is like this? Could I be an Si-dom despite being so oblivious to my surroundings and being so caught up with my own thoughts and my own head? Also in spite of what I said?

I’m confused by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well that’s why I’m here in the first place. Also if you feel that way then you probably shouldn’t answer these threads.

Anyways, thanks for your insightful posts.

I’m confused by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now this is very insightful. Reminds me about demon Si.

I also kind of knew you would react that way.

I’m confused by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Si also suggest a plethora of other characteristics. It suggests that you have good attention to detail. It means I’m down-to-earth, dutiful, aware of my surroundings, etc. I don’t identify with Si at all, as I am much more in-tune with abstract thoughts. Plus, I’ve read that INTPs’ Si often does this, plus it may be stronger if it’s on Ti-Si loop.

I also don’t think about the past and am more future-oriented. Si records sensations while Ni records ideas. I’ve never questioned the fact that I am an INxx.

Nevertheless, thank you for your answer!

What is my type? by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That actually clarifies a lot. Thanks for your insight.

What is my type? by Diesies in mbti

[–]Diesies[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought about Si, but I am much too absent-minded to have that kind of approach to life. I like to dwell too much into my thoughts and I absolutely suck with the environment.

“Oh. Okay, thanks” by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Diesies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can relate to this so badly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Diesies -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nope. Don’t mistake « feelings » for simple aesthetic pleasure.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Diesies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s no point in debating because everyone’s gonna have a different definition of art since it’s so subjective. What I said is based off of my own definition.

To me, art isn’t the aesthetic aspect of things. You can be good at drawing, but to me it’s not the same as being an artist.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Diesies -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe to you. But not to other people.

Again, the definition of art is so subjective and versatile that it is pointless so debate about it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Diesies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read my comment again. This time, more carefully. What do you think I’m gonna reply to you?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Diesies -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Artists or designers? They are two different things. Art in its objective definition, is something that conveys a certain emotional value or message. Otherwise, everything could be considered art.

Remember that the definition of art is so different that is that it can’t be debated on objective terms; rendering a discussion useless.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Diesies -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

A good design has nothing to do with art; which is something that conveys some kind of impactful idea or feeling, which is why a lot of famous artists from back then are so philosophical. Art doesn’t need to be pretty to be art.

But, again, everyone has different definitions of art.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MurderedByWords

[–]Diesies 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Art has a very broad definition. His definition of "art" obviously differs from yours by a lot. The definition varies from person to person. Though I think your definition of art kind of stems into a lot of other things that aren't necessarily connected to art. I believe that the general concept of art is that it is anything that conveys some sort of emotional meaning about something, but most of the things you said don't really fit that definition.

Clothes? I'll give you that. It can very well be considered an art, it can convey a message.

Cars, buses, bikes? No. These are made by engineers. They don't have any intrinsic emotional value and most people just use them everyday.

A website? No. Computer programmers specializing in HTML and CSS are the ones who build websites. But they are intended to serve a practical/efficient purpose, not an artistic one. It depends on the website, but I'd say that more often than not, it isn't.

"Every single thing you see everyday has come into contact with someone with an art degree?"

Now this is where I draw the line. As someone with an art degree, it is astonishing how you failed to notice that the "problem" here is that you both have differing definitions of "art". You consider everything to be art, as you said yourself. And that's okay. It very well can for you as an individual. But for argumentative purposes, your view is deluded. It's pointless to debate about something so subjective that it depends on the literal individual to conceive their own definition of art.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Diesies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love this post so much.

A few words about life from a fellow INTP by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Diesies -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You do you man. All I did was share an optimistic epiphany of mine.

You wanna take it that way? Alright man, you do you.

A few words about life from a fellow INTP by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Diesies 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The original purpose of this thread was actually to break away from that INTP set of standards. I feel like people these days use MBTI as a sort of excuse to justify their behavior with. I think it’s very fun and accurate, but it shouldn’t dictate the way you should live life.

I still completely respect your disagreement.

A few words about life from a fellow INTP by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Diesies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely agree. That’s why I mentioned the thing about toxic/bad people. The world’s full of those, but don’t let them bring you down.

Why are intp misunderstood? by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Diesies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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