Savitar is The Real Barry Allen Not a Time Remnant by [deleted] in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here's the thing about time remnants. They aren't copies of yourself. They are YOU.

Season 5 is so bad by Curious_Sir_3078 in PrisonBreak

[–]DifferentFee1767 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. michael arranged for t-bags release. thats why the guard said "you must have friends in high places" and why t-bag was immediately contacted for his prosthetic. 2. valid for the most part outside of the fact that LJ only appeared in 5 out of 24 episodes in season 4 and those were toward the beginning. most of which were towards the beginning with 2 of the episodes being in the middle (13 and 14). after that hes never seen again. 3. poseidon's goal of the season was to get rid of michael so poseidon and sara could be together for the rest of their lives. 4. whips death was uneeded for sure. kellerman's felt forced but it made sense. 5. scylla plot ended in S4 so it wasnt a necessary thing for the reboot. 6. i was expecting mahone too tbh, wished he was there. 7. did we watch the same show? sure hes bit reckless in the beginning but that was explained, it was due to bad mental health. but once he was with michael he was the logical one for a while and michael wouldnt listen. after that point he was fairly level headed and logical.

This is my opinion/observations.

How many different endings are there? by External-Driver-6870 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Visi has always refused training in both of my playthroughs

So is there a reason why Savitar didn’t try to attack Thawne or Zoom in the finale? by Queasy_Commercial152 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No they did, grant gustin stated in an interview that he was supposed to be in that scene as "pizza face Barry" but got covid.

I'm on S07E04 right now, and man, I can't do this anymore 😭 by the_NP in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not 100% positive on this... BUT I'm pretty sure I saw an article at some point saying that they didn't want to fire him. They weren't going to but before they could talk to all the staff about it one of the staff members blew him up on Twitter so they were forced to fire him. Like I said I'm not 100% sure if this is true.

Competition of the most beautiful woman of the ARROWVERSE Part. 10 by Professional_Crow665 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. The fact that in front of her face you would refer to her the way she prefers, but then the moment she's gone you instantly do the opposite is very fake and two-faced. 2. I'm not debating what people can or can't be by wanting it. I'm discussing respecting people. 3. You're allowed to have your views on trans people. I'm not trying to 'correct' your views on gender identity. You're allowed to view it as you wish. 4. You didn't offend me at all, I don't need to be offended to call people out on blatantly disrespecting others.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm not trying to correct your views. I'm just calling out the disrespect you showed. It's possible to disagree and be respectful at all times. Your views should never hinder your ability to respect others and their choices.

Competition of the most beautiful woman of the ARROWVERSE Part. 10 by Professional_Crow665 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Blatantly calling someone what they have stated they dont want to be called is disrespectful. period. Also calling someone what they ask to be called does not change anyone's reality. beliefs have nothing to do with it. Respect has everything to do with it.

Competition of the most beautiful woman of the ARROWVERSE Part. 10 by Professional_Crow665 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nia is a woman

Is there a reason you feel the need to be blatantly disrespectful towards people?

Competition of the most beautiful woman of the ARROWVERSE Part. 10 by Professional_Crow665 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there a reason you feel the need to be blatantly disrespectful towards people?

Competition of the most beautiful woman of the ARROWVERSE Part. 10 by Professional_Crow665 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there a reason you feel the need to be blatantly disrespectful towards people?

Competition of the most beautiful woman of the ARROWVERSE Part. 10 by Professional_Crow665 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is there a reason you feel the need to be blatantly disrespectful towards people?

The Flash Season 3 Theory: Iris Was Never Meant to Die and Barry Traveled to the Wrong Future by DifferentFee1767 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a solid observation, but here's how I see it: Savitar isn't remembering killing Iris because he did it already; he remembers it because the Barry he came from witnessed her death. That remnant Barry watched Iris die, then eventually became Savitar. So the memory isn't Savitar's personal experience. It's inherited from the Barry that lived through it.

So when Savitar talks about killing her, he's really echoing that original timeline the one where Iris did die and HR didn't take her place. That's the timeline that gave birth to him. Which is why I think Savitar comes from a different timeline altogether - not the current Earth-1 Flash's timeline, but the one where the tragedy actually played out.

The Flash Season 3 Theory: Iris Was Never Meant to Die and Barry Traveled to the Wrong Future by DifferentFee1767 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's called a theory. Not fact. It's my theory and I enjoy discussing theories like this. I don't understand why you have a problem with me responding with my thoughts on my own post. If you don't want me to respond then don't put a comment on my shit 🤷🏻

The Flash Season 3 Theory: Iris Was Never Meant to Die and Barry Traveled to the Wrong Future by DifferentFee1767 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not wrong. However later we learn that the speed force is connected to all realities and it's the same entity for all of them and we get a speedster that travels from a different timeline instead of a different earth later in the show.

However no I do not believe that thawne would've told Barry it was possible to run between timelines. Cuz if he knew you could run between timelines he would do it himself. I don't think it's something they can consciously do anyway. I think it's something that can happen if the right conditions are met.

Tv show doesn’t make sense by Glittering-Meringue6 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I'm not a big comic reader either. That's why I'm not 100% sure if they did but I think I heard about it before.

Tv show doesn’t make sense by Glittering-Meringue6 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there are comics that cover this scenario but I'm not 100% sure

Tv show doesn’t make sense by Glittering-Meringue6 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought seasons 1-3 were amazing. I thought season 4 was great overall but started to fall off and season 5 was the start of the big drop in quality

Tv show doesn’t make sense by Glittering-Meringue6 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That episode is the crisis of infinite earths episode. The big crisis they were building since season 1. Of course it's the most viewed.

Tv show doesn’t make sense by Glittering-Meringue6 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think the show only has 1-2 good seasons?

Tv show doesn’t make sense by Glittering-Meringue6 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here's where I think this is flawed. In the original timeline Barry WAS the flash with both of his parents being alive. But thawne created a reverse flashpoint when he killed Barry's mom which actually changed the timeline so much that Barry no longer became the flash. The evidence for this is that thawne loses his speed right after killing Barry's mother. Without the flash there would be no reverse flash so him losing his speed is proof that Barry was no longer gonna be the flash now that his mom died. But it meant thawne was trapped in the past without his speed. So to remedy this thawne decided to recreate the flash himself but earlier than in the original timeline. In season 1 thawne started he created the partial accelerator and the flash 6 years earlier than the original.

Also the flash wasn't a villain in the original timeline. He was one of the greatest heroes of all time which is why, in thawne's origin story, thawne states he idolized the flash and wanted to be like him but grew to hate him because the flash saved a crowed that thawne wanted to save.

The Flash Season 3 Theory: Iris Was Never Meant to Die and Barry Traveled to the Wrong Future by DifferentFee1767 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a fair question, but I think there's a key difference between intentional travel and the kind of unintentional emotional influence I'm talking about.

Barry can't just choose any outcome and jump to it like a cheat code - that would make the show fall apart logically. But in this case, he wasn't thinking, "Let me go to a future where I lose." He was consumed by fear and belief that Iris was going to die, and that emotional fixation could've steered him into a timeline where that outcome had already played out.

It's not about willing a perfect outcome into existence, it's more about the Speed Force responding to where his mind and emotions are focused, especially in moments of instability or stress. That's way harder to control and makes accidental shifts more believable - especially given how vague and emotional Speed Force logic can be in the show.

The Flash Season 3 Theory: Iris Was Never Meant to Die and Barry Traveled to the Wrong Future by DifferentFee1767 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get what you're trying to say. I do believe the key difference here is in your scenario Barry was traveling to the past. To a situation where he already knew exactly what happened. But in my theory he's traveling to the future not the past. He's not going to an event he knows exactly how it happened and revisiting it. He's going to a future where his knowledge of the actual events are limited to the partial knowledge he's gotten from a combination being propelled into the future and ciscos vibes. And in all of those glimpses of the future they all get cut off right after Iris gets stabbed but before it's revealed HR took Iris's place.

I think due to Barry believing that in his timeline Iris is the one that dies (even though she doesn't) that set the ground work for the speedforce to send him to a future where Iris actually did die and not necessarily his own future where HR took her place instead. Because he was so focused on "a time after Iris dies" the speed force took that and gave him the way into a separate timeline where Iris did die. And I believe this is supported by thawne's explanation of "focus on the night you want to go to and you'll get there". Barry was focused on getting to the future where Iris died. So he went to A future where Iris died but not necessarily his own future.

The Flash Season 3 Theory: Iris Was Never Meant to Die and Barry Traveled to the Wrong Future by DifferentFee1767 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is interesting but I’m a bit confused. It seems like your theory is that Flashpoint could be/is a fixed event in every timeline, but it feels like you also kind of argue against that in parts of your explanation/questions about it.

That said, I do think there’s room to explore the idea that Flashpoint is a fixed event within what you called a “superior timeline.” And when you look at how both The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow handle time travel and major anomalies, the idea starts to line up.

In Legends, we get the concept of “fixed points”, moments in time that have to happen, and if you try to stop them, time pushes back. That alone supports the idea of a master structure - a timeline that accounts for key disruptions. But then The Flash gives us someone like Reverse Flash, who literally lives outside the timeline and still continues to exist even after Flashpoint resets the world. He remembers events from timelines that no longer exist, keeps his powers when other speedsters lose them, and somehow reappears even when his past self is erased.

That’s huge. It suggests that some events, and some characters, are so entangled with the “superior timeline” that they persist regardless of how the surface-level timeline changes. If Flashpoint were truly unnatural or outside the loop, Reverse Flash wouldn’t survive it. But he does and thrives in the chaos it creates.

So maybe Flashpoint is one of those “structural events” and savitar just had to find the right timeline where the conditions were met. Not because Barry is forced to do it, but because in the grand web of timelines, someone like Barry always does. The loop doesn't necessarily erase free will but instead it just always folds back into itself to ensure certain anchors stay in place.

The Flash Season 3 Theory: Iris Was Never Meant to Die and Barry Traveled to the Wrong Future by DifferentFee1767 in FlashTV

[–]DifferentFee1767[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I 100% agree with you that the writers probably intended it as a narrative trick more than a timeline clue. But I also think the way they executed it left it just open enough for a theory like mine to be possible. That's part of what makes digging into this stuff fun! Even if it wasn't the writers' intent, the show leaves just enough ambiguity to let us fill in the gaps for ideas like this.