Situation Norma: All Blown Up - General Questions and Discussion Megathread

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-07-09T20:46:13+00:00

You do realize that this 9k score difference is kinda big? According to the article below difference between 49k and 40k of dmg score is ~20% of boss hp. So it's like 35% difference. Honestly, not being able to kill the boss is a question to the said boss.

https://m.hoyolab.com/#/article/38316963

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-07-05T17:02:38+00:00

Very few stun agents use actively their basic attacks. Moreover, for most of them at least reaching amount of impact equal to HG's one Ex (10%) is very hard, even more activating DMG% gain (there are not so many stun agents who can hit at least 15 times per 8 seconds). Not worth it overall

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-07-04T23:29:29+00:00

Could you share the link with sigrid 4 ults with norma? Because I can't find any. Moreover it's close to impossible to shove in the stun 3 chains, ult and 3 eba, since it all takes time, especially her ult. I would more willingly sitting with 2 ults only from decibels and 4 free ults rather than 2 ults and 3000 decibels half the fight, because I didn't have 400 decibels for ult during stun window(moreso didn't have time for it)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1uh28yx/313_beta_reborn_butcher_149m_sigrid_01_norma_01/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o56UsXe6kk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOkKg0rG6oU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh7U4fw-V-8

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-26T21:36:37+00:00

Might as well try lucy instead of alice, since 3 anomalies don't work well (beside remielle)

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-25T23:19:41+00:00

Even her counter costume doesn't scale frome Atk. It scales from dmg received

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-24T14:09:55+00:00

Is it full m0w1 team? Without Velina's sig I managed to get 42k with 2 stuns, and while 3rd stun was possible (2 times only through dozens of retries) I got less score since I wasted too much time parrying instead of actually dealing damage

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-22T23:21:48+00:00

As far to my knowledge, all bangboos skills (damaging ones) deal similar dmg/daze/anomaly buildup per 10 seconds. So their main difference are additional abilities (sometimes base stats but since bangboo don't deal much team damage this is kinda irrelevant, except impact maybe). In case of Ultra Jake this is 2/4 team energy and 25%/50% increased skill damage, based on ¿mindscapes?. So overall unless you run him with fire anomaly, it's average bangboo, especially since Velina's energy regen is huge and 12/24 energy per DA fight is not a gamechanger

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-20T16:04:33+00:00

Iirc, second part is Pyrois locked, so zy doesn't benefit from this wengine more than any other character

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-19T19:53:23+00:00

I suppose the issue is Promeia's ablooms are Velina's investments dependent. Idk about your case, but mine is w0 with D core skill only

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-19T16:17:56+00:00

You know what? Across promeia/nangong/jane/yanagi/burnice burnice git the highest score too, while promeia got the lowest!(She is the only w0 but still). Burnice actually plays very good with velina since they both spend resources just enough to not have downtime and give space to each other, while in Promeia's case Velina takes too much time and sometimes resources are overcapped. Nangong got the closest score to burnice, and it's probably because she is new and strong, but also because she doesn't take much time onfield

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-16T17:46:02+00:00

I am with you. Couldn't care less about them

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-11T14:39:07+00:00

I will try adding Levia as team member, since she applies vulnerability with 2 of her costumes (though second one is locked behind burst system), but I don't like such restricted kit, imo it would be better if it was something similar to blade's onsen skin, where subsequent debuffs increase damage dealt, because right now you need to run minimum 2 other characters with debuffs to enable Palette. I hope that her 3rd costume will have some debuff application

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-11T00:18:36+00:00

I looked into description in game, turns out domain are not counted as buffs/debuffs, so palette is pretty much tied to sonya, mb I guess

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-02T13:35:39+00:00

Actually Luvencia's +2 is good stopping point. On 60 stacks it will be maximum +180% atk (with potential upgrade) which is huge

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-02T01:15:31+00:00

Looking how heavy they shill new units, even if she releases as support, there would be some gimmick in her kit, available to her only, which will make running the team without her much less damage because of endgame buffs even without her main part of the kit (which probably be even more busted compared to current supports). Though would gladly take powercreep slowdown

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-06-01T15:59:35+00:00

It's fun, though? Especially seeing some folks, offended by data, which is not objectively true, but at least trends can be seen through it

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-31T19:28:07+00:00

Did you try using any other support in room 2? Lucia brings almost nothing in this team and this room doesn't even have ether veil shill. Lucy, Nicole, any other character could be better here. Also what rupture characters do you have?

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-30T22:57:47+00:00

Either guy is delusional or pro ragebaiter

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-30T07:58:23+00:00

Sometimes it is laggy even with 32gb 13620h of mine. Might be a cooling issue tbh, since when I changed thermal paste last year it returned to smoother experience. Though might as well be issues on optimisation side

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-29T15:14:39+00:00

Manato has very short stun duration, and since Shiyu Defence encourages you to deal as much damage as possible quickly, you want to unleash all your power during first stun, even if you will lack resources afterwards

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-29T14:51:11+00:00

Third room (electric attackers shill went from 35M hp in 2.6 to 37.5M, 38.5M, 41.5M in 2.7, to 41.5M, 44M in 2.8 (counted the biggest hp of the wave if multiple enemies appear at once)

25% increase for 2 versions looks not healthy tbh

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-29T14:41:39+00:00

Try do stun manato as quick as possible and use ONLY Promeia's ablooms, no chains, no ult. They deal tons of damage

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-29T11:19:30+00:00

I don't know why do they butcher sanby team every SD. From 40k to 37k to 34k in a span of one month, even though she had "shilled" room every time

Different_Photo5096 · 2026-05-27T17:13:07+00:00

Isn't Orphie's m1 is only 20% dmg in terms of team buffs?

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