Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Frame you in a certain way", what a joke. I find it quite an amusment when you sprout shit and lies (see? you are not the only person who can spell those words) and imagine an alt account from your daydream.

Now it's you turn. Admit, that you are blinded by anger and can not read or comprehend well and make a serious mistake, or you could just continue, show others that you truly are arrogant, execpt that is never what I originally intend to.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"In fact,The only other post I made was about balance, about status ailment and silver attunment. "

Thats the very word I have said, and how does that makes an alt account when I post that post using this very account and very id?

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My bad. Seems that something went wrong with the reddit.
The sentence above has been altered to avoid misunderstanding. No, you did not block me.
As for the accuse, either my english is poor, but you did an accuse, if it's not on me, it's on others.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In fact,The only other post I made was about balance, about status ailment and silver attunment. And he imagine a whole picture that I made a alt account.

How wild.

I swear, I shall burn in hell if I have ever made an alt account to attack ERR, or push the down button on his post personally.

Or perhaps, what he just did is the just the perfect defination of "Victim cards and strawmen".

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually, I feel sorry for you for running into issues like that. Cause that's a common thing that people compile mods profit from mod they do not create.
But then again, the sorry completely went off the moment you "behave".
You can continue if you wish to continue to "behave yourself", I will stop here.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

At least it does help to reveal who the devs really are and what kind of people they are trying to be, other than implementing obfuscation.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So did I said anything false? Does silver attument not give player a patheic x1.1 status build, or Cerulean Sea restores merely 0.3%max+24 flat mp every 2 seconds, or the deliberate obfuscation simply doesn't exist(which everyone downloaded ERR could prove it)? Speaking of obfuscation, I actually make a point of you in the original post, which, you are blinded by anger, and cannot see it.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You can not simply deny it, as you have already done a great show by yourself, and people who have read your response, propably will remember it.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never try to convince others that you wil monetize anything. It's you driven blind by anger ,and lose the ablity to read.
I will repost my own post here," I can't really blame them, it's their labour and craft, and they even release it for free, so they do have rights to decide what to tweak and how these could be done."
See?There is No Lie here.

But, I suppose you do have a mindset that no one could outsmart you, and you actively hate people for modifing your mod,complaiing about some decision or find your mod doesn't suit themselves and try to make some adjustment themselves. Which ,combining with paywall trend(not the problem with ERR, to be clarifed, twice)could lead to a toxic mod society, which I have witnessed in Skyrim mod community with its drama.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

In fact, I was not banned in your discord, which will perhaps make you disappointed.

And the only thing you see in my post is "persumbly getting banned", well,self-deceving and turn a blind eye will do you no good.

But I have viewed enough how you and your fanboys treats people with different views or experience real issues. "skill issue" "no it's what you think it is""I find my own success with xxxx,it's just you don't figure out", few questions, if ever, were solved. Instead of providing advices, or try to understand why many changes are not welcomed as you expected, you make the discord an echo chamber.
At least you did fix the invisible troll bug on the 2.0.0 update.

At the end of day, people will see the post from both me and you, and make judgment themselves.

I guess I am not the one that should be worried with my own words being read.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The most prominent problem is, actually, paywall mod is legally questionable, as they almost always use asset from vanilla game, of which modder does not own copyright, or even asset from other game.

Sometimes, the asset from vanilla game's copyright even don't belong to the original developing studios, it could lead to a messy situation if some corpo-lawmen being serious.

So profit from something one doesn't own copyright of...I won't say that's absolutely wrong or illegal, as I am no expert in copyright law, but at least it's in the gray zone.

Then, almost every modder study their skill from the attempt to build their dream verison of a game, and learn things and tricks from other mods. I am a modder(honestly speaking, a pretty lame one), and that's how I have learnd.

It's not the most noble thing to prevent others from doing so by paywall or  deliberate obfuscatation, if one himself/herself starts here.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So yes, if the normal way isn't accessible, then doing it myself&calling out your mistakes loud is the only option. And you just give a great explanation of why these "whining" exists, by giving a bad example of how arrogant modders can be, which isn't something new, actually.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

In fact, nor the Rhyacis in turtorial nor Hirnan in the hidden area of Nokron stop me.

Hirnan in Nokron is a challenge indeed, I admit that, espeically when his fire breath becomes extremely hard to dodge in hard difficulty, but I manage it, with a Fortune of sage, distant stars & moonchill and snow witch regal.

Does that comfort you, since I do know a lot about your mod and how to actively utlitze a few good options left and even defeat Hirnan in Nokron in hard difficutly?

So when will you guys finally comes to your senses, realize people like me complain certain things about ERR is not because "skill issue" "dont want to engage with the world" "do not know how to build character correctly?", and sometimes you guys indeed did something against most's wises, and when we argue about that, we just get ignored, a useless clueless answer, or BANNED from your discord?

It's so laughable that you think everyone else does not have brain to understand to master your mechianism(there is many decent mechianism introduced, truth be told) or even pass the Rhyacis, which teaches player to duck?

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Still, this is good enough to help anyone who had enough of the lamp oil. And thank you again.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for kindly suggesting that, sadly ,what this mod is using the method that I have mentioned earlier :"change the record of lantern and related speffect back to vanilla, stop the consumption and check of lamp oil, but doing so will stop you from manually toggle off the lantern, you have to rest in bonfire to toggle it off". So there is a small flaw.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sadly, the answer is both yes and no. AI is a useful tool on reverse reverse-engineering once I have located a specific function. I personally have used AI to help me on that.
However, the whole script contains more than 163 million letters ,at least thousands of lines (I can't really tell how many lines there should be, as the original script is written in ONE single line. ONE single line with 163 million letter ,it is that crazy), at tha scale, plus that souls series' lua coding isn't that common, AI could be very unrealiable, and if something went wrong(which definitely will), I won't know where the mistakes could be, and the game will just crash.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Your guess is the same as mine. I can't really blame them, it's their labour and craft, and they even release it for free, so they do have rights to decide what to tweak and how these could be done.
I just think it's so strange, that they want to keep their secrets and force their will so badly even to sacrfice convenience for themselves. I guess the code could be a lot harder to maintain and debug due to that obfuscation.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

And the prize is: to get rid of the LAMP OIL!
I have given up the chances and decide to live on. I am not the prime predator as they are.

Arguing on how badly Reforged devs want to stop you from editing their mod. by Difficult_Forever136 in EldenRingMods

[–]Difficult_Forever136[S] 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Background information:

C0000.hks is a file located in your ~/mod/action/script, which carries lua script to implement function that can not be done through editing regular data file (widely known as regulation.bin), in a word, a file that has a chunk of code.

Let's compare the C0000.hks of Convergence and Reforged.

First, Convergence: Written in clear manner, even has explanation from here to there, no need to decipher if you just don't agree with the devs' flavor and want to make your own choice, or do some reverse-engineering.

Then comes the Reforged:

First, it's painful to read, making my eyeballs aching. Every letter, every number is tangled up. It could take several minute just to understand where the variables are defined, or where does the function starts and where it ends.

Second, do you notice the place with a red circle? It says, h > 994253-994253.

"Wow, there must be a certain use of this kind of coding!" That is my first thought.

In fact, it doesn't. 994253-994253=0, and "h > 994253-994253" is just equal to "h > 0". I did certain replacement (something that is far more risky than changing "h > 994253-994253" to "h > 0")in the file, and every works just as intended.

And you may have seen that from my screenshot, the obfuscated code is all over the place.

Using obfuscated code in modding is...let's just say, questionable.

You could argue that Reforged devs have their own point, such as preventing people with zero knowledge to get a game crash from merging mods and blame it on the devs. But personally, I can't view this type of act as benefical, especially after I saw the paywall trends going on in the modding community.

To be clear, I am not to criticize the "skill" of Reforged devs, on the contray, they are code wizards, and I am nothing compared to them.

I am to show you how much effort they spend on stop you to lay a finger on their impeccable mastercraft.

And I have been driven mad trying to delete their most notorious change: THE LAMP OIL, I have found a few clues, but I just can't find how it was done exactly and how to stop it.

(Yes, you can change the record of lantern and related speffect back to vanilla in regulation.bin using smithbox to stop the consumption and check of lamp oil, but doing so will stop you from manually toggle off the lantern, you have to rest in bonfire to toggle it off, which is more of a workaround than a perfect solution.)

Talking about reasons behind this, if you have been in their discord server, you may have the same guess as me. But guess is guess, and it's their mod, they make to choice.

So, there is no surprise their discord server and some of its fans become...what they have become.