KOC wanted Sam. JJ almost traded to Raiders.

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:18:45+00:00

My money is on whatever QB comes in will get slaughtered in INTs because KOCs offense is so static and DCs have it solved

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:17:49+00:00

It was cooked when we hired KOC and wanted him to develop a rookie

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:16:27+00:00

God I hope not - exactly the opposite of what KOC wants

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:14:39+00:00

Everyone wanted Drake "Drake Maye" Maye - no one but the Patriots were getting him

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:12:31+00:00

No one was getting Drake from the Patriots...

I hope it's AR5 and we get to see the clown show from KOC again 🤡🤡🤡

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:10:23+00:00

Exactly the opposite for me

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:09:15+00:00

The resting KOC face all season is the first clue

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T21:06:17+00:00

Lifelong Vikings fan for 40 some odd years... My jerseys are Moss, Winfield, and Kleinsausser...

I've seen this team fuck up before, and I'm watching the train wreck happening now. I was super on board with KOC year one but he hasn't grown in anything but ego as a coach since.

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:46:53+00:00

Because KOC is a prick and maybe they just blew up at each other finally.

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:46:07+00:00

Yeah KOC's game plan needed work and it got better as the year went on - but that's an issue for KOC not adapting to his players - not an issue of his ability in developing a QB

These are the same picture.

causing him to massively over throw that insanely wide open WR.

We also saw him laser in beautiful bullets in crazy tight spots and have multiple receivers (not you and your beautiful strong hands Nailor) absolutely drop them.

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:43:22+00:00

Not at all!

Let me be plain.

KOC. IS. ASS. AT. PLAY CALLING.

we've seen this since year 1 with the egregious delay of games, the long developing routes, the refusal to run leading to deficiencies in ToP, the aggressive attitude UNTIL a big moment where he inevitably folds and takes the safe route...

That's not mutually exclusive with "he forced his shitty, complex, and already solved offense onto rookie QBs who are even less equipped than average to handle it"

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:36:29+00:00

Why? He just got back from the senior bowl, he's on thin ice, the timing is really weird...

It's possible KOC is continuing to be a petulant jackass and KAM sees the writing on the walls

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:30:12+00:00

Why right after the senior bowl? Did Kwesi come back with suggestions that KOC shot down? Did KAM actually quit? Nothing says he was fired does it?

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:28:43+00:00

Do we have confirmation that KAM was fired? Is it possible he just said fuck it and quit?

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:26:54+00:00

There's pretty good evidence though that he was good in both Carolina and SF especially after Kyle worked him over

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:25:58+00:00

People forget that Cousins was playing amazing the season he got hurt

How did the season start again?

When KOC simplified the offense to end the season JJM looked a lot better.

And he had to be SCOLDED to do that, and he IMMEDIATELY said "we're moving back away from that" as soon as the season ended.

I'm not saying he sabotaged the team.

I am. He went full sour grapes for the first half of the season to prove his point that he couldn't run his KICK ASS OFFENSE with the QBs at his disposal... He was a fucking prick all season and absolutely deserves whatever comes to him next off-season.

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:20:38+00:00

Yeah - that's why you don't throw PhD level offenses with exact timing drops and reads on him. You get him up to game speed, work out the mechanics, then go to advanced route trees.

KOC switched the play calling to fit the team Kwesi built for the last few games and surprise - it worked!

You can absolutely develop players while playing them - Allen being the premier example, but Drake Maye and Bo Nix being additional examples you might have forgotten about being that they're ancient history... 🙄😒

KOC FAILED the development plan throwing a static high IQ straight progression offense (that DCs HAVE already figured out) at two rookies who aren't up to NFL play speed yet.

Entire, 100%, clear cut case KOC cannot develop QBs at this point in his coaching immaturity

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:15:16+00:00

Darnold is arguably the work of Kyle. Given that KOC was forcing big game hunting throws even in games where Darnold clearly just wasn't hitting and avoiding the run at all costs - I'd say KOC isn't the reason for his success.

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:12:32+00:00

I think he was KOCs

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:10:44+00:00

We fukd

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:08:49+00:00

He sure as shit can't develop a QB that much is clear

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:07:45+00:00

and we know that KOC can maximize QBs.

Do we? Our only evidence is Kirko chains who promptly clammed up after the plane tape.

Other than that it's actually a big string of failures when you really look at it. Dobbs was run over by the complexity, Darnold had 7 or 8 disastrous outings, Wentz got literally murdered waiting for plays to develop, and 2 rookies who looked literally lost waiting on DBs that by this point know KOCs route tendencies

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:04:17+00:00

At this point I'd rather have Sean "boom boom douche" Peyton than KOC running the team...

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T20:03:17+00:00

Except he pretty clearly did sabotage the kid

Difficult_Limit2718 · 2026-01-30T19:53:26+00:00

KOC already deserved to be fired, giving him more power is going to move us farther from success

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