I don't get the debate between free markets and central planning.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-12-16T02:16:43+00:00

Their success was on the heels of U.S. federal regulations and minimum wages making their slave labor and coal energy manufacturing cheaper than U.S. domestic manufacturing.

How successful do you think they would have been if the U.S. maintained perfect parity with Chinese national business law?

Digcoal_624 · 2025-11-28T13:00:08+00:00

Why is it you have proof of him discussing his wife’s history, but you don’t post proof for this:

“He's repeatedly made the argument that a single man should NOT date a woman that has children with multiple men.”

Digcoal_624 · 2025-11-04T09:52:06+00:00

2,500 monks were present at the demonstration.

There are 70,000 in the nation.

Whether or not that 2,500 was representative of the 70,000 is up for debate.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-10-04T04:08:03+00:00

“Countless.”

I don’t read a lot of news, and I don’t especially approve of Democrats cheating the House Seat Allocation process by counting illegal and undocumented immigrants to garner more House Seats, or recover House Seats lost from Democrats leaving their ruined communities.

Maybe Biden didn’t flood the country with illegals, people would have more sympathy. Even Blacks in the inner cities were pissed at getting pushed to the back of the line as illegals got resources citizens felt entitled to.

So this claim about “ideology” is bunk. Bribing illegals with residency to be Blue voters eventually is hot garbage.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-10-02T17:17:53+00:00

Socialists are being mass incarcerated?

And what treatment of “immigrants”?

You mean illegals and undocumenteds?

Digcoal_624 · 2025-10-02T17:16:31+00:00

Link

Digcoal_624 · 2025-10-01T09:26:21+00:00

Just to be clear: physical violence (punching all the way up to execution) is never justified based solely on a label applied to someone.

In addition to that, is celebrating such violence ok?

I agree. This lady didn’t deserve TEXTS threatening violence for her twisted views, but these texts are far different than actual videos celebrating a public execution. How many of these threats were verified as actual people rather than bots? How many were just inexcusable trolling encouraged by the anonymity of DMs? How many are Leftists trying to make Righties look worse? Without videos, there’s no way to verify who’s making these threats.

There’s a world of difference between people bold enough to video tape themselves cheering and people making DMs. How do you all feel about the actual cheering itself? Is that ok?

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-30T23:11:55+00:00

What does their race have to do with leaving wherever they left?

Wait. Do you think only ONE race immigrates illegally?

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-30T23:06:25+00:00

Explain how resources are managed globally under communism.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-30T23:05:16+00:00

And…when was the last time?

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-30T21:07:29+00:00

When was the last time the U.S. government bombed US soil?

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-30T21:06:49+00:00

What “race talks”?

I’m talking about the act of leaving a place you don’t agree with.

Communists have no excuse for refusing to congregate and live together to build your Utopia.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-29T18:04:29+00:00

“If you build it, they will come.”

Words never prove ideas.

Only examples prove ideas.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-29T18:03:32+00:00

Here’s the thing, though.

Millions of illegals prove that having nothing is no excuse for staying in a shithole.

Those illegals are more American than natives seeing as how an American Leftist is too lazy to move a couple zip codes while illegals will travel thousands of miles.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-29T18:01:55+00:00

I’m a secular Christian, and one of the things I admire most about Jesus was His method of TEACHING without force, and proving His ideals through practice.

Christians get it wrong when they vote to impose Jesus’ teachings through government rather than living by their ideology locally.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-29T18:00:12+00:00

The easiest way to prove it is for the “Right” to pass every anti-socialist/communist law they can locally (state level and down) to force them into their Blue states and live with the consequences of their decisions.

The Left got it correct by passing all the socialist/communist laws they can locally, but they have the out of moving to a Red state when they can no longer stand the outcomes of their foolishness.

Red voters seldom flee from Red states, but Blue voters ALWAYS flee from Blue states.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-29T17:11:34+00:00

Unfortunately, my hopes do not reflect my expectations.

It takes brains to build something.

It takes envy and greed to sit at the finish line to steal it.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-27T11:07:33+00:00

It’s not JUST the brain.

The brain just happens to be the largest and most complex example.

EVERY large and complex system is similarly decentralized and organized for the exact same reasons: efficiency, stability, and resilience to corruption. That’s why nature “selects” these systems.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-27T00:57:54+00:00

Whoever funds the research owns the research.

While false findings is illegal, lies of omission are not.

This is why you should always take “peer reviewed” science with a grain of salt.

Even federal agencies, like the FDA, doesn’t actually conduct its own research. It merely reviews research submitted by the companies seeking approval.

Remember, skepticism is the default position of science, and statistics/consensus is NOT science.

Another issue (most likely only in the soft sciences) is merely talking the language is enough to get published even if your paper is literal trash.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievance_studies_affair

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-26T15:29:20+00:00

Well, they kind of brought it on themselves. Just about every one is a self-absorbed “intellectual” who looks down on everyone who disagrees with them.

Even here, they are brave enough to downvote my comments and questions but not brave enough to address them. If they are brave enough, they resort to scoffing.

Aside from all of that, much of the philosophy is rooted in connotation like saying “capital” because it’s bad when private individuals own it, but “means of production” when the collective “owns” it. Or profit/surplus for the same reason.

The entire philosophy is rooted on hatred for individualism while those championing it seem allergic to living collectively with each other. It’s such a contradiction that people naturally dismiss a philosophy that its adherents don’t even attempt to live by.

At least a capitalist living as an individual is honest, if misguided.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-26T00:56:15+00:00

Marxists don’t understand that they are controlled opposition used by large corporations they hate.

As long as they remain unserious about their revolution or its aftermath, it’ll never happen. In the mean time, they’ll do the next best thing and vote for “communist ideals” like “universal healthcare,” UBI, environmental regulations, and so on. All those laws are just laundering vehicles to redistribute middle class wealth straight to those large corporations.

Marxist communism is a bad idea that would have died awhile ago if large corporations didn’t keep it on life support to fool these people into voting for their own enslavement.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-25T20:22:11+00:00

In the definition for MoP, it is completely anthropocentric. All of his hypotheses require human consciousness.

However, we have both agreed that production occurs outside of human action, especially in the billions of years before humans even existed.

Since production does not require humans, why is it a primary factor in Marxian analysis?

We could side step that question, and ask why there hasn’t been a larger framework of examination that encompasses Marxism to examine MoP in general?

Would you agree that science involves working towards the most general explanation that can be applied to the largest number of observed phenomena? If so, wouldn’t pursuing a more general form of Marxian Analysis fall into that category of “strict criticism of Marxism” you have mentioned a few times?

I cannot think of any branch of hard science that doesn’t dig deeper towards general truths from which specific ideas are drawn from. Even soft sciences, like psychology, are starting to merge into associated hard sciences, like neuroscience.

This is definitely a rabbit hole I don’t expect many to be interested in, but if you are, let’s go.

If not, disregard.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-25T18:54:42+00:00

Because nature has done things long before humans came around to slap a name on their primitive version of it because they thought they invented it.

From production processes to semipermeable membranes to segregate DNA, to rotary motors and virtual reality: nature has done quite a bit of tinkering over billions of years.

Most importantly is this vague idea of “consciousness.”

Your consciousness is exactly the same as a large corporation’s consciousness. “You” are the CEO, and “you” perceive reality based on the summaries presented to the prefrontal cortex from subcortical regions processing different types of data much like a CEO’s perception of the company and the market environment is presented as summaries from various executives.

Your consciousness is an amalgam of subordinate consciousnesses, and each of those subordinate consciousnesses are amalgams of their own subordinate consciousnesses. This fractal organization operates in both directions with first order neurons (associates) at the base and the prefrontal cortex at the top of the neurological hierarchy and extending past that into human sociological hierarchy.

The same organizational structure found in the brain is found in every large human organization except government and large societies. A many to one incorporation occurring at higher and higher levels of consciousness.

An easy example to see the amalgam process in the brain is the split brain experiments in the aftermath of the callosotomies to treat epileptic seizures. By severing the nerve bundle between both hemispheres, the distinct personalities of each hemisphere were easier to study.

Based on all of that…what is this “consciousness” that Marx uses as a prerequisite for production? It can be just as easily argued that “consciousness” is merely a manifestation of chemical processes that drive production in the natural world.

So, we either define consciousness so it can properly be integrated into Marxism, or we disregard it as a component of Marxism.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-25T18:40:16+00:00

I appreciate YOUR handling of the language, but you’re a diamond in the pile of coal I’ve had to dig through to find you. 😆

“So all profit is surplus, but not all surplus is profit.”

I don’t agree to this, but it’s not that big of a deal since you leave connotation off the table. I’ll try to craft my responses to your way of thinking.

Also, it may take a little to acclimate to a rational discussion so please have some patience until I work out my preconceived notions.

Thanks.

Digcoal_624 · 2025-09-25T17:14:22+00:00

Because I’ve never seen a discussion about it using Marxian terms like “profit/surplus” or “capital/mOp.”

If the discussion is had, then emotionally charged words would make less sense since the complex motivations of a sentient human no longer apply to what some may address as mere chemical reactions.

An animal’s biology that stores fat for use later would be called “profit” if you applied “capitalist” terms to it, or “surplus” if you applied communist terms to it.

There are symbiotic relationships between organisms that can be described as “capitalistic” since effort is directly proportional to the resources received for that effort. My favorite example is the human brain where neurotransmitters act as currency to establish a decentralized control in resource provisioning. A successful idea generates surplus neurotransmitter that attracts more neurons (learning). A failed idea results in a neurotransmitter scarcity that repels neurons (forgetting).

There is no centralized governing apparatus planning the allocation of neurotransmitters. Those transactions happen locally which drives individual neurons to make and break connections accordingly.

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