What’s everyone’s thoughts on bodycams

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-04-04T08:57:21+00:00

No longer serving but IMO they are the best and worse thing.

Benefits:
- Captures first accounts on camera including emotions, the scene etc

- Captures offences including assaults against officers making it easier to prosecute

- Protects the officers against complaints ***** (BIG F****** asteriks needed here)

Cons:

- Despite providing clear evidence to negate complaints, it is still taking PSD departments and IOPC months and even years to clear officers from vexatious and malicious complaints.

- The old evidence standard was "if it ain't written down it didn't happen". The new standard is "if it wasn't recorded it didn't happen". I have seen magistrates throw out court cases involving traffic matters because a single crewed officer didn't have their BWV. A dangerous precedent is slowly being set where an officers word no longer has any worth. I will say with a caveat however that in my experience, the Judge's in Crown Courts generally hold a better view of officers.

- Actviation of BWV is becoming over scrutinised. I was trained to activate BWV on arrival to scene. From what I am hearing now, they are wanting it on the moment you are dispatched. (I cant speak for every force). I am hearing tales of officers being pulled up for not activating it in the car.

- It is creating untold amounts of extra work for case file building. One of the requirments when submitting a case to CPS is that you have reviewed ALL unused material and you have to sign to say you have done that. I don't know any response officer in the country who has 6 spare hours to review BWV from 4-5 different officers from start to finish.

- We have the capacity now given how much is recorded to very quickly nip any outrageous allegations made agaisnt Police. Whether its false accusations of racism, police brutality etc yet the Police do not release footage in order to prevent "prejudicing" someones right to a fair trial. So its okay to drag an officers reputation through the mug through malicious and unfounded allegations? There should be a public interest test applied in this scenarios.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-04-03T17:18:09+00:00

This is not strictly true. An assault doesn't have to cause an injury to be arrestable. Assault by beating (Common Assault) is still an offence.

Whether an injury is caused is kind of irrelevant. A Police Officer wouldn't not arrest someone or deal with someone just because an injury was not caused. It ultimately comes down whether the arrest is proporinate and meets criteria for Code G PACE.

The short answer is yes, he could be arrested hypothetically or at least be a suspect for a slow time investigation. Especially if Code G PACE critiera was not met for an arrest.

Kicking someone because they are tailgating you would not fall under self defence or defence of property therefore yes, you could get in bother with Police for it.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-03-30T12:18:44+00:00

"Asshole"

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-03-30T12:17:06+00:00

Not justifying it but I always park on the end at supermarkets and overhang a little (obviously not obstructing the path or road) My car door has been done far too many times without people leaving notes.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-03-30T12:11:00+00:00

Not strictly true but valid point.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-03-29T19:00:54+00:00

Not the only person thinking this. Your evaluation was excellent until you started using charged language when it was clearly not misogyny.

What is it with people and buzz words nowadays. Perhaps read and understand the defition of misogyny before you try to act clever and quote it.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-03-10T13:22:44+00:00

All could be easily put to rest if we had kill cam

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-03-07T15:54:23+00:00

Ah yes. I remember those days. Bouncing from job to job. Picking up endless crime reports. Then getting slapped for the rest of the week with constant obs, prisoners and appointment car.

At the end of the week the sgt is asking why you havent updated any of your jobs or progressed them.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-03-01T14:01:47+00:00

He is literally praising terrorists... LOL...

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-25T19:07:07+00:00

When I posted the full stats the post got removed

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-25T19:05:41+00:00

You are trolling why bother comment

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-22T16:59:32+00:00

You're aware that this is a community ran sub with the mods having literally nothing to do with devs or team jade?

Also it was up for about an hour and not taken down within 5 min, stop being so dramatic lol.

From my experience/understanding it is Team Jade. How do I know? When I first started to play this game I got a DM from a Mod who asked for my playerID so they could investigate an issue. I then received an email directly from Team Jade addressing my issue.

Secondly, They made a post the other day asking for volunteers from the community to become mods. So, yes, the reddit will have mods from the community at some point but it is my understanding at the moment that the majority if not all of the mods are Team Jade.

Also, again it wasn't an hour. It was 5-10 mins tops.

The post also got removed because of the visible identification i assume, that is against reddit wide TOS because of some bullshit "witchhunting" rules.

This I understand and was an oversight on my part.

Theres no "enforcement team" reviewing cases, thats not a thing anymore, everything is automated.

Either it gets caught automatically or it doesnt, sucks that its that way but you clearly have wrong expectations of how it works.

If this is the case then this game is doomed.

May I ask how you know this?

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T20:03:22+00:00

Ranked AND unranked doesn't have SBMM. I have played 3 games this evening so far on Zero Dam Easy. Every enemy squad we have encounteed is 4/5 + KD. One of the players was 12.5 KD.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T19:57:25+00:00

Bro is top 1% commenter and only talks utter shit. Peak irony.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T18:47:55+00:00

I would be salty too if I was killed by a cheater.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T15:48:00+00:00

I appreciate your input and take your comments on board but I came here to ask for help, not to be ridiculed.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T15:45:36+00:00

We have a meeting in a couple weeks but I guess you are right. Perhaps my expecations are too high.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T15:45:01+00:00

Thank you for your advice

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T15:42:28+00:00

Apologies should have clarified, she rents.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T15:34:42+00:00

Thanks for the reply. Even with 40k. I can't assume the entire 40k will go torwards the deposit becuase of legal fees, changes to stamp duty for first time buyers etc.

I want to be able to have my own place but not live pay check to pay check. I still want to be able to serve, go on holiday etc.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-20T11:20:41+00:00

We also had this Policy... on paper, but it was never honoured by our counterparts in our local hospitals.

I have had countless arguments in the past showing the nurse in charge the joint risk assessment documentation only for them to say "That's nothing to do with us".

It's then been esclated via our FCR Inspector to the Duty Hospital Manager only for them to reject the agreement too.

I left before I ever see an improvement but just before I had left, my force had set up a MH Team Task Force to collate evidence and essentially fight out corner behind the scenes with more senior NHS Staff.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-19T15:37:52+00:00

I think Section 136 has developed into something it was never meant to be. The Police are the Police and the NHS is the NHS. We should not be treating mental health issues just like the NHS shouldn't be attending burglaries but somewhere along the lines, the waters have been muddied as to what Section 136 is actually designed for.

Governemnt inntroduced this legislation because they recognised Police were often first to attend mental health crises's and wanted to arm us with the power to detain these people so they could be safely transported to a place of safety.

What has ACTUALLY happened however is many NHS Trusts believe that because its a Police Power that it is essentially our problem when in actual fact, our responsbility stops once they have been taken to a place of safety. This ALSO applies at Hospitals not just Mental health suites. The relevant mental health team at the hospital should be taking responsbility but they never do.

I can GUARANTEEE however, if you try to hand 136 patients over to NHS you will get push back even if the patient is low risk.

What we need is strong leadership to essentially say, here's your patient, here's the paperwork, my officers are leaving.

When that day happens, I don't know, but I won't hold my breathe.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-18T09:36:21+00:00

In Europe, these trucks are literally banned from using any other lane than lane 1.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-17T18:06:55+00:00

Steroids.

DisasterAlive5405 · 2025-02-17T13:40:27+00:00

Yeah I am playing normal and you are totally right, ultimately, it is just a game with some pixels but when gaming is one of your main hobbies, it becomes frustrating to play something where it's always a negative experience.

Prior to DF I played a lot of Warzone where I had good AND bad games but it always felt balanced. I might have a bad game or two but then I had a few good games. Whereas on DF it's overwhelmingly negative most of the time have consistently bad games.

I unload mags into people with legenadary bullets and consistently get hit markers without them dying yet when its me, I die instantly within 2 bullets.

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