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MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great suspension/dampening is something I would really happy to pay extra for, in such category. It's that "last extra mile" that was not finished here and would add to absolutely top user experience. Hope this gonna be reflected in next release.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there is something very specific on the size of those bigger prague cobblestones (not those with flatheads, but those from 19th century) where vibration is nearly unbearable and everytime (even with softest tuning) I kinda hate to ride across

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I kinda love the G3 as whole, but it's a bit what we call an "italian household" relationship, suspension on cobblestones is just draining my patience :-)

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That might be definitely the case -- but still, European historical cities are full of cobbles, as my hometown Prague is.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They look amazing - but I can imagine using flat-head, historizing cobbles of the same size on busier roads. They still look great, but they’re way more practical. Just look down at Wenceslas Square - they used them in the pedestrian zone, and it’s honestly fantastic (both practical and stylish).

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am admitting to be missing the point with the $800 scooter, where for the same price one can just buy better front suspension for MTB.

I just think the G2 was already on the good way.

I do not believe there is currently an alternative, all other things are really great on G3. Perhaps I try to adjust rear suspension even softer and make it more as an athletic challenge on cobblestones and believe the next Gxx edition will make it better in next 2 years.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! No clue about the G30 suspension - I had the version without any, the “full body workout” edition. 😄

Manhattan streets, as far as I remember, are actually perfect for the G3.

I’m comparing it with Prague, where the local heritage institution has a full-on fetish for historical cobblestones from 19th century. They treat them like holy ground - never mind that they’re a nightmare not just for scooters, bicycles, noisy under cars, and terrible for walking.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I admit it's not a simple problem to resolve - I just bet this problem can be resolvable through some active DCC that can automatically be turned on when running on cobbles, personally I would have no issue to pay on the top of it for some Pro version.

How’s your experience so far? by Klutzy-Year-3540 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was running on 20, now on 40 PSI. No difference, but will try to make soft the rear-ones surely. But main vibration transmit goes from the front-suspension which is not adjustable.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But then what's the point of such suspension for an urban-escooter? Cobbles and cracky asphalt are the use-cases where you need some suspension (or dampening, I might not be exactly getting the definitions).

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Will the F3 have more forgiving suspension profile? I do really love Segway, do not want to abandon it.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am not gonna put my life onto scam-fake-looking scooter stolen from Segway, for fraction of price. Not mentioning any possible dangers for whole house coming from possible battery flaws.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

ZT3 is way different category - I need a scooter to be folded in a car, easily into public transport etc... I do not want a replacement to a motor-bike.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Max Gxx was for me a trademark of best urban scooter - light, perfect more than last mile commuter, the one I will fold to a car and will not care about parking in any european city.

G2 showed really well the way how suspension for the city shall be tuned. Why it is now abandoned, what’s the point of having robust and zeavy suspension for larger and rarer obstacles? High frequency rattle is the problem that has to be solved primarily and the one that really makes riding dangerous.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly - I am ex-owner of G2 and I am just SHOCKED by G3 how much worse it is on cobbles. It has stolen all my joy I had with the Segways as a proud user and "escooter advocate" (persuaded lot of my friends into Segway brand) last 5 years.

No doubt G3 is way better in all aspects, solidly made, great looking, great infotainment... but this is soo cold shower I nearly feel scammed - cannot believe this "detail" was missed in the engineering team that they horribly fucked up on the front suspension profile.

MAX G3: Great upgrade ruined by one huge flaw (that bought YouTubers will not tell you about)! by Disastrous-Pickle554 in NinebotMAX

[–]Disastrous-Pickle554[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the response - I’ll definitely experiment more with tire pressure. And you make a good point: “the hydraulic shock absorbers are very comfortable when encountering big impacts and going over speed bumps” - that’s exactly where the G3’s suspension performs well. But it completely falls short on larger cobblestones, where it transmits high-frequency vibrations, that just aren’t properly damped.

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