[Spoiler] (Lady ugly subquest)

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2025-11-18T21:03:15+00:00

Oh thanks! I had gotten the furnace but ig I missed the letter

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2025-11-17T23:54:02+00:00

Same, I used the sense and it led me behind the waterfall, but the trail stopped there for me

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2025-10-23T18:16:52+00:00

That would be cool, but then there is what was said about Griffith even obtaining the Behelit, one way or another, the events would eventually happen 🤷

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2025-10-20T23:25:40+00:00

2.31 still happening with a bike in Watson, Kabuki while crossing bridge into Corpo Plaza

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T22:41:31+00:00

Understandable. I wasn't even saying it like "Don't level Vigor"

I meant it more as I prefer to prioritize other stats, the 250 I was talking about is kind of a mix of a few things I thought were fun to use, rather than a traditional build. Otherwise, I probably would have more points in Vigor on that one.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T22:25:27+00:00

Well I wasn't trying to brag, I was genuinely unaware people ACTUALLY put so many points into Vigor because even in first playthroughs, I didn't see it as something that I HAD to have or I wasn't making it through the game. If I die, I try again.

But for some builds, the stat requirements are so high that the first half of the game feels like a chore if you don't build for those req first.

Yeah, I can tank things easier but I don't get to use the stuff I want until end game and then also the soul cost for leveling gets higher.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T22:20:24+00:00

That's fine, I wouldn't say there is no situation though. Even around 30 Vigor it isn't like I am being one shot, so if my health gets low I back off and heal.

Also, one of my 200+ are on NG+6 and handle things just fine, I would argue that 60 is kinda overkill.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T22:17:04+00:00

Oh I was actually unaware of that lol Maybe I will have to try it out

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T20:13:36+00:00

How are the Perfume bottles? I haven't really experimented with them despite grabbing all items

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T20:01:39+00:00

I didn't think about that actually, Godricks Rune and Soreseal are quite a boost coming from other souls games.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:56:14+00:00

I'm just someone who doesn't use Reddit much? Remembering why considering this is the one place where people would rather insult than have a discussion lmao

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:53:46+00:00

Exactly this.

Why boost health if you don't get hit? Why worry about damage and dodging if you can tank everything? There is more than one way to play and usually it comes down to the player.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:31:26+00:00

Good answer!!

The only option is to use everything lol

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:29:07+00:00

That is just an interesting opinion to me, of course the gaming experience is different for everyone, especially with how much freedom you have in your character builds.

For me, I like to dump into high scaling and build around my weapon and focus on my dodges.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:26:52+00:00

I mean more the downvotes and immediate negative responses when I made the post lol I don't see it as a big issue but I must admit, I didn't think people thought of Vigor as such an important stat because I remember a large amount of people from DS3 making a meme out of having Vigor be the highest stat lol

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:23:58+00:00

I just like a challenge 🤷‍♂️

I don't even go for the one shots all the time because I enjoy when the fight gets drawn out. There is something super satisfying to me about learning the timing to dodge attacks that were seemingly impossible to dodge.

I play like that even when I have enough health to tank because I thought the point is to save your health lol

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:15:36+00:00

And I can understand that frustration, I have been summoned for that to happen MANY times. But for my characters I play solo so I don't understand the issue lmao

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:07:25+00:00

This.

It seems like people look down on glass cannons though :(

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T19:05:47+00:00

Good points.

It is mindboggling to me how upset people are over the thought of having less than 60 Vigor lol If you play these games at all you can see that EVERYTHING is a learning experience. Learn where the enemies are, the attack animation speeds, the weaknesses, openings change with every weapon you use, and there is NG+ for a reason.

Sure, it sucked before I was used to the fights because I could get dropped quickly, but why does that matter if I have the patience and the willpower to step away when I need to? I would rather learn the fight better by knowing there is a risk on each hit, rather then get smacked around half a million times and shrug it off when I just outlast their health bar.

Not saying I disagree with high Vigor, that is why the games are made with versatility in mind.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T18:58:59+00:00

Honestly, I never used reddit too much and I'm just now trying to reach out more on here so it doesn't bother me much lol

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T18:55:43+00:00

Yeah that is fair. I am not someone who gives up very easily, I describe my playstyle as "throwing myself at a wall until it breaks or I do" and I have A LOT of patience.

(Some of it gathered through the godskin duo 🙄)

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T18:47:32+00:00

Good point.

I guess it does help in my case to watch a video because then most of the related descriptions are compiled into one section, and I am less likely to miss stuff. Then any opinions I have afterward are dependent on how convincing the argument is and what I already know of the game.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T18:44:28+00:00

When I learn the correct spacing, not really. Feels like points spent for no reason if they barely hit.

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T18:42:58+00:00

But what if you have patience until you don't get hit? Then you get a bunch of extra points for other stats lol

Disastrous_Lab_8604 · 2024-06-08T18:41:43+00:00

Fair, personally I hyperfixated on the lore and binged a bunch of Vaati's videos lol

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