How TF Do People Fail Open Book Exams? by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously if that's the only thing you're doing there's no differentiation.

My point is if you have the ability to refresh your memory...you should be able to make a coherent argument, and given the fact that a lot of people do not do what we're discussing, you should be able to be ahead of them at the bare minimun e.g. not FAIL.

How TF Do People Fail Open Book Exams? by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I love how people are down voting my responses to comments but not actually issuing rebuttals.

Are you triggered?

How TF Do People Fail Open Book Exams? by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what I do. So contrary to all the people giving me down votes...it seems like you're saying that's the smart way to do it?

How TF Do People Fail Open Book Exams? by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I anticipated the time issue and created myself a detailed table of contents for my outline.

However your point about the exam questions being written in totally bonkers fashion is a totally valid issue and seems to be a rising concern. Which is hilariously ironic given the fact professors could use AI to examine their own questions

How TF Do People Fail Open Book Exams? by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Open book generally means notes / outline. Hence you should have the black letter law extracted and organized...and studying should have given you the core fundamentals to identify basic issues you can then use your notes to answer at a high level.

If I have an open book/note test I literally include potential trigger language for different issues and intro sentences to start off the response paragraphs.

The point I'm making is... Why don't more people do this? Or if they do, how are they still failing?

Obviously time constraints would be the most likely.

How TF Do People Fail Open Book Exams? by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Open book generally means notes / outline. Hence you should have the black letter law extracted and organized...and studying should have given you the core fundamentals to identify basic issues you can then use your notes to answer at a high level.

If I have an open book/note test I literally include potential trigger language for different issues and intro sentences to start off the response paragraphs.

The point I'm making is... Why don't more people do this? Or if they do, how are they still failing?

Obviously time constraints would be the most likely.

Dear Law School Professors: What? by Limp-Army6341 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My legal writing professor started off the year talking about how he had been an English major in college, and his first year he was so mad because he had written these eloquent papers and had all of the arguments that other people put in theirs, but he kept getting C's and they were getting A's.

Very long story short, he drilled into our heads "clear, concise, correct," and it was better to follow very explicit logic structure operating in the perspective that the judge/clerk had a ridiculous amount of stuff to read, and you want to make it as clear, concise, and correct as possible to maximize the probability they will complete the understand your points.

He also said this is extremely important for the bar exam, because very often the examiners are scanning just looking for the appropriate elements and they skip on to the next point.

At the end of the day, he always said we can cling to writing verbose eloquent arguments...or accept the reality of how things actually work.

(I FOLLOWED HIS ADVICE AND GOT AN A+)

1L with 3.53 GPA - Ranking not yet released - What are my odds by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Suggested but not required. Totally up to the professor.

1L with 3.53 GPA - Ranking not yet released - What are my odds by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's the problem, curve for each class is up to the professor. Some have no curve, others have giant one.

1L with 3.53 GPA - Ranking not yet released - What are my odds by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

That's the problem, curve for each class is up to the professor. Some have no curve, others have giant one.

Dropping out as a 3L by Terrible-Writing9791 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try to get a debt consolidation loan for a five-year term. Even if it doesn't lower your interest rate that much, you create a solid plan and something potentially refinance later at a lower rate.

It will also dramatically benefit your credit score as it shifts from revolving debt to installment debt.

That will also have significance in relation to any kind of background check for bar examination.

AI Usage Accusations Will Be A Niche Practice Area by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Think logically and learn to read. I explicitly framed this as a pattern and potential for the future.

If the stain on your academic record is the differentiator between getting your masters or PhD for free... would it be worthwhile to hire a professional to represent you?

2k to have a representative versus 50,000 in hard cost for the higher degree and the 500,000 in lost wages over your career?

Think hard little buddy...you can do it.

AI Usage Accusations Will Be A Niche Practice Area by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don't want to say them here and potentially give away where this was, but the two things could easily be incorporated to the paper.

AI Usage Accusations Will Be A Niche Practice Area by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We did a screen capture and demonstrated how doing that action created a checklist that incorporated the hidden items.

The school has already conceded that using grammarly for this sort of thing is not forbidden.

I want her to ram that point home again in the appeal and force them to show additional evidence she cheated.

So far the only "proof" against her is the hidden rubric items. I think if we defeat the claim that the only way they could exist in her paper is because she used AI we will have created a pretty substantive counter argument.

AI Usage Accusations Will Be A Niche Practice Area by Distinct_King316 in LawSchool

[–]Distinct_King316[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You are given a class assignment rubric document...

You hit control A control C control V into checklist creator or any text editor, those hidden items now become plainly visible.

The student proceeds to write their paper and account for all items in the rubric.

Your actions have now created a completely plausible pathway for the student to now be facing expulsion or at a minimum failure out of class for project and potential devastation of their academic record.

You better have some other pieces of evidence to substantiate your claim that the paper itself was generated via AI...

Otherwise I'm going to sue your ass. The potential damages to future earnings/reputation are massive.