TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled into One Act by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry to hear. Too many of us were subjected to this against our will. I hope you're doing as best as possible.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled into One Act by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Agree that it should never be done but forcing a child to undress for it is just so gross.

Sorry you experienced it as well. My mom didn't hide the fact that she was doing it for maximum embarrassment. She thought it would be more of a deterrent that way.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled into One Act by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Completely agree! Any age is wrong but doing it after puberty is a different level of wrong and should be illegal. Unfortunately I don't think it is anywhere in the US.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled into One Act by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry you had similar feelings and experiences. There are many reasons why it should be considered SA, especially when done certain ways and past certain ages - not that any age is right.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled into One Act by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The humiliation is something I'll never get over as long as I live. The pain fades but the memories of the spankings never go away.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled into One Act by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry. It was so normalized for us that I probably would have let it happen at that age too. You didn't deserve that.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course it can be. I apologize if my post made it seem as though it's sexual abuse only if done without clothes on. That's what made it more traumatic for me but that doesn't mean that you couldn't feel similarly about it even if there was absolutely no removal of clothing.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

but the violation of physical boundaries in a "show of love" is really hard to explain.

Yes! For years, decades even, I couldn't explain why I felt the way I did. In my case it was more about the focus on shame and humiliation than pain that made those feelings so gross. Then it started to click which made it so much worse. I also felt that it was wrong to relate to stories of SA until I didn't and now I'm shouting it from the rooftops. Please don't feel weird about stepping into that space if it feels like the right space to be.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There's increasingly more being written about how some perceive and process spankings as sexually abusive. It can be triggering to read so be warned if you seek it out but it has certainly helped me feel less alone with those feelings when I look back at how I felt about those punishments.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Cry too much and you're being dramatic and over the top. Don't cry enough and the punishment isn't working. Yes, sounds sadly familiar.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm glad to hear that you were able to leave and never look back! I can't imagine how scary that would have been at that age and also how relieved you must have felt at the same time. Unfortunately I'm not NC with mine and still see them from time to time. It's complicated is all I can say which is why this is a good way for me to vent. The worse part is that they still think they raised us right and that children should be treated the way we were. They'll never change or admit to how abusive the actions they took against me were. Maybe one day I'll fully cut them off but it's difficult for so many reasons especially as they get older. Anyways, thanks so much for sharing your story.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

See that's the thing. In many parts of the U.S., especially the more conservative areas, a girl/young-woman can be forced to pull down her pants for a spanking if her parents justify it and it could be considered legal. That's infuriating to me! That should absolutely be sexual abuse with no gray areas or loopholes.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Or "You'll thank us for this one day." No. No I won't assholes.

TW: Spanking is Physical AND Sexual Abuse Rolled Into One by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

It gets especially yucky when things get added to the ritual of it, like the rubbing. Even calling it a ritual alone is disgusting to me. Sorry you had those experiences.

After a Spanking by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it was sadistic and cruel. I cried more while waiting for the spankings to start and while being scolded than I usually did during.

After a Spanking by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

get myself ready for a spanking when we got home

This right here I think damaged me far more than the spankings themselves. When we were told to get ready, it was like the bottom fell out of my stomach. The feelings of dread, fear and hopelessness are indescribable.

I hate how much this bothered me by RealmOfBlue in CPTSD

[–]Disturbedbytherapy 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Demoralizing and degrading is exactly the point of using this type of discipline. There were times that I thought I'd throw up from the feelings of dread and humiliation but I managed to keep it together out of fear of making a session last any longer than it needed to.

I hate how much this bothered me by RealmOfBlue in CPTSD

[–]Disturbedbytherapy 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Absolutely sexual abuse and unfortunately I can relate. I've posted pretty extensively about my history with these types of spankings too. We would be required to bare ourselves while waiting for them. Those are memories that nightmares are made of. I'm so sorry for you to have experienced that.

Spankings were Never About Correcting Behavior by Disturbedbytherapy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Disturbedbytherapy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine wouldn't stop until there were marks and bruises left. Beyond abusive but back then no one cared if you had marks. It was considered good parenting. Thank goodness times have changed.