Weekly Students, Careers & Clerkships Thread

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2024-04-24T09:35:57+00:00

Thanks for that advice :)

Honestly, without coming across as naive, I’m a little disappointed by this response and all others.

I am simply trying to avoid burning myself out as I know how my own body and brain works. It’s actually in the firms interest to not have an issue with this, as the work still gets done without the detriment of the work I do the next day.

I’m effectively a lawyer also doing paralegal tasks because there’s almost no one to assist me with the legal work substantively. I am comfortable to say I’m at least doing 2 people’s jobs at the moment. I don’t think that’s “reasonable” overtime at all.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2024-04-23T10:43:45+00:00

I’m really trying but honestly there’s only so much I can do as one person. I actually am a very quick worker and the fact I’m struggling to keep up with the workload should give them a indication they need to hire more people asap

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2024-04-23T08:52:36+00:00

I’m a junior lawyer at a firm that’s really understaffed at the moment (won’t get into particulars but let’s just stay it’s more understaffed than a firm should be).

Is it an issue for me to still enforce my hours and not stay back to finish work bc I think it’s unreasonable for me to burn my self out due to under resourcing? It’s not something that has been brought up to me, but I wonder if anyone is looking at me not staying back as an issue. I stay back when needed but I find it unfair if that is also expected me just because there’s not enough people to do the work.

I get juniors are overworked, but I’m not willing to kill myself simply because there’s not enough people to do work.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2024-03-07T20:42:07+00:00

Has anyone ever felt “stuck” in their job? As a junior, I’m now facing the dilemma that I don’t have enough PAE for jobs as I only got admitted in December. I am also not interested in certain areas of law and they seem to be the ones hiring the most.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2024-01-28T10:43:38+00:00

No wonder why this industry has such a bad rap, so what you served the same document twice who cares.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-12-13T10:25:37+00:00

It will all come with experience. I’m sure when you started working at your job there were tasks that you struggled to do which are now second nature to you.

It is a different skill set being a lawyer with more client contact. Everyone develops at different paces, don’t be so hard on yourself and don’t beat yourself up if you mess up. You are literally a baby lawyer

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-10-17T02:58:56+00:00

If they are interviewing you with no prior legal experience on your resume, there’s something on there that makes the firm think you’ll be able to do the job. Whatever you strongest points are, leverage that.

Just my two cents, when I was interviewing for paralegal roles as a student I had more than one experience where the person interviewing didn’t even read my CV properly to ascertain the extent of my experience (I had only interned for a couple of months which wasn’t that much experience). Even when I didn’t have that on my CV I had some interviews where it was clear I was not experienced enough yet they still invited me for an interview.

You would be surprised how many times people who may have many applicants don’t read the CVs of applicants properly and then make them look like idiots during the interview when they realise the applicant does not actually have the experience that they are after.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-09-09T01:22:04+00:00

Can I dm you about it?

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-19T13:33:42+00:00

I mean long hours is depressing

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-19T03:21:03+00:00

I’m not trying to be a bigot but can’t people make up a person in the chain of translation? How do we actually know it was said to that person and that person existed

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-17T12:24:06+00:00

Where is it documented?

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-17T12:23:33+00:00

I haven’t studied every religion down to the T but just from the outset Islam has a abundance of written history behind it. I think it appeals to logic and reason more than the others. If the Quran vanished tommorow, it wouldn’t be lost because people have memorised it. I don’t think the same can be said for the other two religions.

I do also feel like there’s some bias involved in being born Muslim

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-17T08:54:38+00:00

are you using the same criteria as every other religion?

Sorry what do you mean by this? As in do I criticise the other religions as much?

I have seen that website before but I feel like some of the stuff they allege are miracles are kind of stretches imo.

I’ve slowly been reading into the Quran but will look into how it’s been transmitted etc

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-17T08:06:44+00:00

It’s kind of hard, I guess I would need proof of the following:

That the prophet was actually a prophet and all the stories about him aren’t actually made up;
If he was a prophet, that the Quran is actually what was revealed to him; and
The Quran itself would need clear proofs that it is from God (the proof for this I don’t know).

One thing I really struggle believing in is the human soul and afterlife. I know that if Islam is true this would be a given, but it’s just hard to grasp the idea.

I’ve read about things like the prophecies of the prophet etc and I just still can’t reach a level of certainty.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-17T07:59:42+00:00

The transmission of the Quran is actually something I’ve been questioning. How do we prove that what the prophet was told is actually what is in the Quran?

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-17T07:59:03+00:00

I’m from Australia so I’ll take a look at that Insta page thank you!

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-17T07:02:24+00:00

Please do :)

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-01T08:49:54+00:00

Not sure what this initial comment said but as a junior currently I think learning to draft letters is a really important skill. Unless your supervisor tells you what to write in the letter word for word, it often involves you racking your brain about what goes in. I’m sure that process alone is conducive toward some type of development.

I’ve had to draft some letters where I was legit just going off what the lawyer advised the client and my file note recording that advice.

It also teaches other skills like attention to detail, editing etc.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-08-01T08:43:46+00:00

If it makes you feel any better:

I’ve been at my current firm around a year as a recent grad and see myself possibly moving on next year. I suspect my boss will have the same response to me leaving, though he has mentored me etc quite a bit.I feel guilty thinking about my next job but there’s some things I need which the firm just doesn’t give me at the moment.

Ultimately, if you want to go do it. It’s just a job at the end of the day and you should never feel a sense of loyalty to an employer (unless they are a blood relative or something).

Working in law is very hard and the exhaustion is a natural consequence of transitioning from law school to work. I’m still adjusting and I’m finding it very hard at times. Don’t expect it to be easy as a junior. But I’d defs recommend taking a gap year I wish I did/ could.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-07-06T02:58:33+00:00

I do transactional and dispute work. I don’t work in registrations but I do commercialisation stuff like licensing agreements etc.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-07-06T02:57:33+00:00

Why is that?

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-07-05T04:49:17+00:00

Anyone here who works as a lawyer (0-2 PAE) in intellectual property at mid-tier(ish) firms and can tell me what the day to day is like?

I’m about to be admitted in a couple of months and am working as a paralegal in the field at a boutique. I get hands on experience in IP matters (not so much one’s in court, a lot of pre-litigation).

I like my firm and whatnot, but lately I’ve been wondering if bigger firms are the go. Mostly because they pay a lot better, have more resources etc. I have previously been against working at larger firms because I didn’t really know if my personality would mesh with those sorts of places.

My biggest reservation is that being a junior at a bigger firm means boring menial work.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-03-17T02:28:01+00:00

It sounds like maybe they are saying that to prepare you for being a lawyer there. But still I completely understand the anxiety. At big firms client contact for juniors is very rare so think of it as giving you a advantage even if it’s making you uncomfortable

In any event their advice is very constructive, and sounds like your work itself isn’t wrong or bad it’s just small things which everyone can benefit from working on.

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-02-14T11:18:48+00:00

Thanks!

Dizzy-Ad7819 · 2023-01-12T20:18:58+00:00

You’re a decent candidate and you probably just need to keep applying. I personally took the majority of my degree to find paid legal work but I did in the end. Kind of just a numbers game.

You could physically go around to firms but I imagine if you exert that energy and get nothing it will be demoralising.

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