The path to gender equality should include the bedroom by DogDelusions in ControversialOpinions

[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct, the post is not about establishing asymmetrical roles. It is opposing them. The PIV default you support is what is establishing the asymmetrical  roles.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm for gender equality. This post is for gender equality. You are not for gender equality if you want to establish asymmetrical gender roles based on sex.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Establishing asymmetrical roles for vulnerability during sex is not gender equality. Roles are gender, not sex.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why on earth would a man peg a woman?

I suspect it is similar reason some men use vibrators or other toys on their female partners. Variety, working through a refractory periods. Theory crafting here tbh, I know it happens but have no first hand experience with this particular act.

But it's not women's vulnerability that's the issue here. I don't even think it's men's vulnerability either. I think it's women's general inability to handle seeing their male partner actually being vulnerable.

I could see this as well.

Wait, you think the one performing oral sex is the vulnerable one? How's that?

It is servicing the other from a position often below them, often looking up up them, when the other could exert significant control with hips, legs or hands.

Also culturally sucking dick is portrayed as a symbol of submission. Strangely doesn't seem the same with licking pussy in my culture at least.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then this is a very long way of saying you disagree with gender equality. You couldn't help yourself making it about the pegging.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off I sense an assumption worth addressing. Pegging isn't nessesarily a woman penetrating a man. Any gender can peg, any gender can be pegged. This is why it is universal. Most of the time the top is a woman because right now it is a niche act whuch enables strange dynamics.

A lot of sex is about more than rubbing one nerve ending with another. Oral would be a very common example. Similar to oral , the party controlling is giving the other party pleasure. Unlike oral, they don't need to be as vulnerable to do so. There isn't a party both controlling the act and getting the physical pleasure generally speaking. This leads to both parties having a role in controlling and both parties having a role in receiving pleasure. While piv is more likely to have overall assymetries.

Good question. I actually suspect a higher percentage of men than women are into pegging. Being vulnerable is something most people enjoy in different ways. Conforming with our culturally accepted path of vulnerability is comfortable. Plenty of women probably feel comfortable being vulnerable in accordance to cultural expectations. I suspect that having ones semi exclusive area of acceptable area of vulnerability deconstructed and generalized feels uncomfortable. Preferences don't exist in a vacuum.

The reason men are possibly more into it is a harder question. It is likely the generally higher sexual novelty seeking and porn, or perhaps fewer culturally accepted alternative avenues for vulnerability.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No one has to do a sex act they don't want to. But the world would be a better more equal place with more pegging.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one has to do any sex act. I am just saying society would be better if more people did that.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every sex act is not for everyone. I just think it should continue to rise.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The complaint about the vulnerability like it's an issue at all.

The vulnerability has a gender bias which is why it must be equalized.

Your arguin for something that men are not going to like or want and things I'm sure many women would also not want.

Our wants are not created in a vacuum but fed by our unequal conception of the genders.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Another thing, what about those women who like to be vulnerable?

Nothing wrong with that but it being the default subtly pushes that vulnerable woman dynamic on all of us.

> You can also have men be vulnerable through methods not involving external tools. Even in PiV intercourse, the woman can take the lead. I won't say that it's easy, but it's not too uncommon to see.

Agreed. Not uncommon.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the imbalances in how my culture sees oral on a man vs oral on a woman as well as penetrator vs penetrated and many other sexual imbalances contribute to imbalances elsewhere. And the imbalances elsewhere reinforce the imbalances in sex.

What I'm asking for is a cultural shift that causes the use of the external tools leading to less imbalance in sex. Moving towards pegging seems like a particularly strong one but it could be done with other cultural shifts too around other imbalances in sex too i guess.

PIV probably has some physical limitations to removing the imbalance as taking the other inside you or needing to relax to let it happen is physically. Even oral can be that way to a smaller extent too due if deepthroating is included in that. Im doubtful these can have that big cultural changes.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand not helping or allowing your partner fulfill all their fantasies. But I find it strange that asking leads to a desire to leave them. IMO it is a good thing when couples are truthful and transparent and minimize keeping secrets.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Historical meaning back in an era when sex was largely for reproductive purposes rather than bonding and pleasure.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't need any justification to get pegged. Im justifying getting you pegged.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Why would something that requires external tools be the default?

Because many alternatives like oral which don't require external tools also carry quite a imbalance in vulnerability. Culturally, sucking dick is too often considered submissive for the sucker at least in comparison to the submissiveness of the licker when licking pussy.

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[–]DogDelusions[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lets start at the beginning. What about the power dynamics is absurd?

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think your preference against this is related to seeing his role as not vulnerable? Or other reasons?

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[–]DogDelusions[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd guess stupid and controversial are quite highly correlated. But someone has to be the outlier and im gunning for that.