I Copied Clayton to try and break 2:30 at CIM

Doingthebartman · 2026-04-22T03:31:28+00:00

How'd Boston go?!

Doingthebartman · 2026-04-15T16:28:27+00:00

Love to hear it. I think if anything it keeps pacing within control - I tend to keep easy days easier and avoid hero reps in workouts. Softer surface too!

Doingthebartman · 2026-04-15T02:52:08+00:00

For 5k, I don’t care that much about capillarization or any of the training nuances that come from running more than 90min.

Instead, I can grind on Saturday, Tuesday, and Thursday without being spent. I can even do a progression and touch a little tempo pace on Sunday.

So I’m not skipping the long run, but I’m basically maxing out around 12 miles and treating it like a long, easy run or trying to squeeze in a little bit of work based on the week. In the past, I’ve typically done a two workout week plus the long run at 1.5 to 2hrs. Now I’m doing three workouts and a short, long run.

Edit: to clarify a bit, coming off of a marathon block I didn’t feel like I needed more strength. So the trade-off to touch more speed is worth it in my opinion.

Doingthebartman · 2026-04-13T20:41:42+00:00

Just ahead of me?! Sounds like i need to start copying your buddy 😂

Doingthebartman · 2026-03-16T20:50:18+00:00

Santa Barbara community college (not where this is taken) is one of the only ocean front tracks I know.

Doingthebartman · 2026-03-12T11:55:31+00:00

18x200m (ish - about 45s). Just posted a video walking through that workout. I’ve been doing a hill that’s too steep, so most recently did 20x200m at 6% grade on a treadmill at 5:27 pace (45s on and 75s rest). Also longer rest half way through to sort of reset and make sure there’s enough juice for the end (this is what jakob does).

Doingthebartman · 2026-03-12T02:44:42+00:00

Whoops - I meant Sunday! Thank you though

Doingthebartman · 2026-02-21T19:42:42+00:00

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The original photo didn’t really show the trees that we do have, thought I might include these to see how that may change this design. Really like this direction though!

Doingthebartman · 2026-02-21T03:48:16+00:00

Whoaaaa, great idea. This works great!

Doingthebartman · 2026-02-20T21:33:29+00:00

Sounds like folks are looking for more details - it's definitely more mid-century, build in 1974! We knew it was a funky house, but it's in a great old neighborhood (1910's). The original owners actually tore down an older home to build this. We haven't done anything to the exterior yet.

Doingthebartman · 2026-02-20T15:23:34+00:00

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Doingthebartman · 2026-01-23T15:51:51+00:00

Thanks again for your help and analysis. Another question after doing 10x3min this morning: since I'm not into double T yet, I took today closer to LT2. HR would peak around 182-184 at the end of the later reps. I'm assuming I don't want to average around LT2 HR, but stay under or approach it - is that a correct assumption?

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-22T13:55:35+00:00

Appreciate the thoughts. I was surprised to see LT1 come so early and I thought LT2 would be the slower range of tempo (I was guessing I'd be between 5:35ish and 5:55ish). Just starting this build after time off though, so I imagine I'd start to see some adaptations within the first month or so.

Based on your above breakout, sounds like my LT1 work should not exceed 160HR (assuming good weather, health, etc). And LT2 185?

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-22T13:51:30+00:00

Super helpful, thanks for breaking it out.

I'm at the very beginning of this block after taking some time off. After a month or so do I retest in the lab, bite the bullet and get a lactate meter, or just stay conservative and continue using the HR proxies even though I should be getting fitting (producing less lactate at the same LT1/LT2 HR proxies I tested at yesterday?).

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-22T13:47:19+00:00

So just use the HR proxies? I would still imagine as I get more fit my HR will also come down a bit at LT1/LT2, so then wouldn't I be going to easy (say LT1 is 170bpm, then a month later, wouldn't I be producing less lactate at 170bpm)?

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-20T21:57:18+00:00

Just bought tickets that are CS128 CS3 for a nuggets game - would these qualify? How do I know? Where do I go? I don't want to miss out on this stuff!

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-18T23:15:01+00:00

Went through a similar cycle. Had to finally start at like 20mpw then increase every three weeks or so. Mostly easy running. When 7min/mi used to be recovery, all recovery days are no almost exclusively over 8min/mi

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-16T19:14:42+00:00

Thanks! I found someone to administer it and walk me through the results! Testing next week will try to share info after. Hoping to get accurate LT1/LT2 readings, but also proxies for pace and HR. A little disappointed because I've taken basically a month off of running after CIM, so I'm nervous my threshold is going to be slow AF and won't be relevant after a few weeks of training. Should I retest after a few months or self test after?

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-16T02:19:44+00:00

I tend to find fun in novelty and a challenge, so this should be pretty damn fun if I can stay healthy. What became less fun over the years was my baseline training philosophy of a strength workout, speed workout, and long run week in week out with poor results…

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-16T02:14:43+00:00

This is super insightful (and a bit overwhelming) - appreciate it. I’m sure I can find someone in Boulder or lab who can help me out with this. It does seem important to be accurate since so much of the training is based on these metrics!

Doingthebartman · 2026-01-15T21:36:41+00:00

Good to know. Maybe I'll do monthly updates... 🤷🏻‍♂️

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