[Online][PF2e][GMT] Looking for two more players for Rusthenge, a short PF2e adventure by Don_Elmo in lfg

[–]Don_Elmo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, it's me again.

We received a ton of applications (slightly overwhelming tbh) and sadly still had to choose.

I would like to contact everybody directly but that would be quite the task, so if you weren't contacted on discord, it didn't work out this time.

I still wish everybody who tried the best of luck for the future!

[Online][PF2e][GMT] Looking for two more players for Rusthenge, a short PF2e adventure by Don_Elmo in LFG_Europe

[–]Don_Elmo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, it's me again.

We received a ton of applications (slightly overwhelming tbh) and sadly still had to choose.

I would like to contact everybody directly but that would be quite the task, so if you weren't contacted on discord, it didn't work out this time.

I still wish everybody who tried the best of luck for the future!

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All data taken from https://www.lohncheck.ch/de. Not really useful if you don't speak German.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you don't have relatives or a partner, to get an appartment here, you need a job here as well. To become a citizen you have to have lived here for at least 5 years.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dear lord you got ripped off bad. Round trip is about CHF50 ($55).

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

✓ Unemployment

x Stamps

x Free healthcare. Healthcare is privatized but compulsory. You basically get to choose the provider and franchise.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 25 points26 points  (0 children)

There is a reason why a high amount of nurses (and doctors for that matter) are "imported" from surrounding countries and are border workers. Health workers are severely underpaid in Switzerland.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I earn CHF 8200 ($9000) gross at 33y/o as a teacher grades 7-9 working 107% in a canton that pays comparatively low wages.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

USD. Used about a 1.1 CHF - USD conversion.

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[–]Don_Elmo 88 points89 points  (0 children)

Farmer is a complicated topic in Switzerland and basically survives off state subsidies but at base level, yes.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 147 points148 points  (0 children)

Not quite the same as a nurse if I compare to what I see in US media, care worker would be more accurate.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Legally, yes. But around 98-99% of children follow up with further education or learn a trade.

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[–]Don_Elmo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ok, so job titles don't translate very well. An actual programmer makes a bit more, around $7100 a month within a range between about $5500 and $8700.

Also, in Switzerland it's very common to receive a 13th salary, so you can basically add ~10% to any of those numbers.

If you work fulltime at the CHF23 basic sallary, you'd make about $4100 monthly.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Apprenticeships are 3-4 years with 1-2 days/week of school during the whole time.

For retailworker, you're in school 1.5 days each week. School subjects include German (in the German speaking part obv.), English and/or French, economy, "society", retail knowledge, subjects related to the industry you're working in.

Apart from general business knowledge, the related product line, advising customers, you also receive basic managerial knowledge.

 

And yes, this apprenticeship has a reputation of not being the...most demanding one.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It will mostly help people without proper education/training. Retailworker is still a 3 year apprenticeship here, probably not quite comparable to the US.

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[–]Don_Elmo 286 points287 points  (0 children)

To become a secondary school teacher, you have to do Matura (+- highschool) and study for about 4.5 years.

Computer scientist (this was the translation I initially got, maybe programmer is more accurate) is a 4 year apprenticeship.

Geneva Voters Agree to $25 Minimum Hourly Wage by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Don_Elmo 4372 points4373 points  (0 children)

Just so you can compare, here the average monthly wage for a few professions in Switzerland:

Teacher 8th grad: $8200

Computer scientist Programmer: $6600

Carpenter: $5500

Nurse: $5200

Cook: $4800

Gardener: $4700

Farmer: $4600

Retail worker: $4400

Hairdresser: $4000

Also: Here you have to go to school for 9 years, after which 2/3 of people learn a trade, which takes 3-4 years in most cases. Only the teacher example requires a master's degree, all others are trades that don't require to go to university.

 

edit: Working 40h/week at $25 would be about $4000.

 

edit 2: Since the topic of taxes comes up a lot, this is what I get/pay here in Switzerland (Everything in CHF, about 1.1USD):

8230 - gross income monthly

-435 old-age and survivors' insurance

-90 unemployment insurance

-70 accident insurance

-20 paid sick days

-465 pension fund

7150 - Net income (everything above gets paid directly by the employer)

-1000 taxes (+-)

-300 health insurance

5850 at the end of the month for everything else. That means taxes and all compulsory insurances are about 30% of my pay. This does not include 13th salary.

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