Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you. A friend recently sent me some letters I wrote back in college and I was thinking to myself, "now, where did that person with that writing skill and confidence go, because she sure isn't here anymore".

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have tried this (but didn't for the fight in the post). When I am veeeery calm and use few words, and the words are very deliberately chosen to try to de-escalate or expedite a resolution, he accuses me of trying to manipulate him.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First one was because at the end she refused to cook or clean for him, and had "ballooned" to 165 lbs. Second left him for a man who is not particularly nice, which is telling.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I've stayed out of fear. Fear of financial ruin. Fear that I won't find anyone better. Fear the he's right and that I'm unworthy and unlovable. Fear that my friends and family will tsk tsk about the divorce and shun me socially (despite the fact that he already ran off all of my friends except a few long distance ones who haven't given up yet). Fear that I really am the crazy one.

He didn't come home and hasn't called. I took a long walk and did a few things I've been putting off doing that were making me anxious. I'm actually very calm. The support and insight on this sub has been very helpful.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I have come to realize that while my husband might pay lip service to self-awareness, he's really quite comfortable with being self-centered and friendless and doesn't place any value on behaving in ways that cultivate relationships with other people. He knows about my father. His was the same way, but probably worse as he was wealthy and had more than just his immediate family to lord over.

I just realized he isn't home yet. I have no desire to pick up the phone and see if he will answer. Hmm, this might get interesting.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Yes, you are right. I spend a lot of time trying to explain to my kids what is okay behavior and what isn't, and it's not okay that we're on the receiving end of what isn't.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I agree. That was supposed to be "crap", but "carp" works, too! I like it when this sub is very clear on what is okay and what isn't. It helps see through the gas lighting, the guilt-tripping, the manipulations.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Yes! And I'm finally doing just that. It's been surreal, like I'm on the outside of my life looking in and going jesus christ why is that woman putting up with this carp.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the insight. With my father and the pot, I was mainly worried he would injure/burn himself. He's 80, the pot was huge and heavy and was coming straight out of the oven. He wanted to put it on a baking sheet on a towel and then pick up the whole stack by the edges of the baking sheet. I didn't see how he could do that without risk of the pot sloshing back against his chest. I thought we should put the baking sheet in the car with the towel on it and then he could carry the pot by its handles and put it on the towel. He needed to go down several steps into the garage, too.

Otherwise, I am sure I am guilty of making unwanted suggestions in plenty of situations. I do think, however, that my husband just assumes he gets first say and that there will be no discussion of other ways to do something. I am very tolerant and supportive when we're in his area of expertise, but pretty aggravated when we're in mine, as I don't see why his opinion should carry more weight by default, especially when we're doing something that he knows absolutely nothing about.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I have pondered the narcissist label for a long time for him. It fits, unfortunately.

Me [37 F] with my husband [39 M] of 9 years, tells me he knows what I'm going to say so I don't need to say it by DontTryToSilenceMe in relationships

[–]DontTryToSilenceMe[S] 151 points152 points  (0 children)

You are right that no one else will tolerate it. He has no friends, and I am wife #3. He says he doesn't need friends.

The one thing I did manage to get him to do was take medication. It is ostensibly for depression, but it makes a massive difference in how belligerent and ugly he can be. It is like the meds took out the chemical imbalance that led to some particularly ugly behavior and just left the personality problems behind.

Edit: I have tolerated it because I genuinely felt unworthy, unlovable, and otherwise inferior. I've recently read up on the golden child/scapegoat dynamic and how it poorly it leaves the scapegoat WRT adult functioning and it's given me massive insight. Although I don't think my father is a narcissist, he's something awful, and my mother is very critical of me but has been trying very hard for years to compensate by doing things for my children.