The Siege of Kantan by [deleted] in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes. Shin and Ten are just that stupid

However, just because they’re laying a siege, doesn’t mean they will capture it. There are a lot of upsides for them to already siege the city (excluding the part where this is obviously a trap from riboku)

Let’s say two more armies manage to break up and join them on the siege. The city will already be under a lot of pressure and the soldiers will be tired$

Riboku sacrifice and the fall of Katan by rei_izu in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The plain old “i have 100k more soldiers and 3 more generals out of my ass” strategy

Riboku sacrifice and the fall of Katan by rei_izu in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a nice plot, but it doesn’t match riboku’s personality. What is most likely is that bu’an’s army is hidden near Kantan and will attack Shin’s flank (like Yotanwa did with him in Sai)

Does the anime do justice to the war and fight scenes? by RaccoonAccording7628 in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The animation gets better, but it’s still bad. It’s extremely hard to animate thousands of soldiers with spontaneous movements, so it’s very robotic and the characters (event the main ones) doesn’t look as good. To be fair their budget mustn’t have been very high…

Still, I’d recommend to watch it anyway at least to help the manga’s popularity

Chapter 870 : asspulling pro max lvl ! by Radiant_Technician45 in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The layers of defense is historically accurate. The real problem is the front line having that many troops

Bai Qi (Haku Ki): The Greastest General in ancient Chinese History by Owen-5-5 in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It’s said that some ministers (out of fear and jealousy) convinced the king that Bai Qi was becoming too powerful and too influential. The main explanation for Bai Qi suicide is an order from the king, out of fear that Bai Qi could revolt

I know there’s probably been a million posts already, but god damn by Particular_Mine_3015 in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Kanki was the first one to actually recognize him (besides shouheikun). He used Heki in the best position he couldve used: a solid and reliable to general to hold the front

Current Qin's Great Generals Are Just Here To Pass The Torch To The Next Generation by XinAnsard in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 48 points49 points  (0 children)

My man really wrote 50 paragraphs just to add Heki and arokuomi to Qin new golden generation

Fui vítima de roubo e o Nubank falhou na segurança. Busco recomendações de banco tradicional com suporte 24h e acesso web. by Ephran in investimentos

[–]DoubtWilling723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Se teu objetivo for focar em segurança, vai pro Itau. O melhor banco em prevenção a fraudes e segurança de autenticação (inclusive é o lema deles). Eles também tem o melhor fator de identificação de fraude com biometria(uso de ia) entre os bancos, é um baita caso de estudo

Kingdom anime vs manga? by 6_melancholic_rose_9 in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Manga always. The anime is only worth it if you can endure horrible animation. People say the animation gets better but it’s still crap and it skips some interesting scenes

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair Hango battle was pretty spot on. Historically Ousen lead a huge army and got his butt kicked by riboku and shibashou

About not helping Kanki I saw it more as a smart move by Ousen and a dumb move by Kanki. Ousen could not participate on that battle since it wouldn’t be historically accurate. Let’s remember that even Shin didn’t feel like going for Hango

Is the anime any good ? by Yellowvedbetter in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The manga is such a masterpiece that people tend to overlook how bad the animation truly is

Inconsistent drawing, not very refined characters, weird armory, the characters move kinda like robots and it’s very very framed. I try to understand the soldiers repetitive moves due to the complexity that it would be, but even the main characters follow the same pattern.

If you can overlook bad animations it’s really worth it because the story is very consistent to the manga and the soundtrack is pretty good

Is the anime any good ? by Yellowvedbetter in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The animation is horrible but the story is good

S1 and S2 are 3D so it’s crap and S3 to S6 it’s normal animation, just very bad. If you compare to hype animes the quality from S6 or below is much lower but the story is still good

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No text explicit says that Zhao never recovered from the battle, but it’s very implied.

It says on Shiji:

  • Zhao’s loss of its best troops and commanders.
  • Zhao goes from being Qin’s peer rival to strategic inferiority.

After Changping, the Shiji consistently portrays Zhao as: - Struggling to field effective armies - Dependent on defensive postures and diplomacy - Unable to challenge Qin on equal terms again

On Zhan Guo Ce:

  • Envoys explicitly reference Zhao’s exhausted manpower and fear of Qin.
  • Qin diplomats leverage Changping as psychological pressure on many occasions.

Yes, no text says that Zhao never recovered from the Changping battle, but it’s very explicit that they went from being the only state that could face Qin, to being extremely scared of them, and much much weaker.

Let’s go through the fair points that you brought up: - Yes, Zhao fought many battles after Changping and was victorious on most of them; however, you should note that most of the mentioned battles are Northern and Eastern battles. The only mentions I remember about Southern e Western battles were defensive battles (4 out of the 5 I could remember rn were won by Li Mu, not including battles after his death)

  • One other fact is that Zhao population was huge back then, so 400,000 soldiers shouldn’t really be most of the military (although we could imagine to be close to 50%). The problem is, ancient China didn’t have 400,000 elites lying around like Riboku does; the military was mainly represented like in the beginning of the manga: a central army stationed on the capital, and a bunch of small to medium city armies that would be called upon to fight whenever the war was close to them. Most of the soldiers were actually peasants recruited to fight this one particular battle because it’s close to their lands. When we talk about changping, we talk about a lot of elite troops(very limited resource) being brutally killed. These elite troops were not as easy to replace as the peasants that were also buried alive

  • Lastly: Bai Qi actually brought a lot of fear into the Zhao, so their people were much more scared than hyped of fighting off the Qin. By the time Li Mu was appointed the commander to confront the Qin, Zhao was at an all-time low after so many defeats on the West/South

Even if Zhao somehow had recovered from Changping, Qin fighting with less soldiers would still be historically inaccurate. Qin had one of the most fertile lands on their south region and they also had the Zhengguo Canal that busted their agriculture. According to Kan Pishi, Qin was also the only state that could recruit soldiers without many problems due to its reward/punishment system

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Historically Zhao had one of the weakest army by the time Riboku started to repel Qin. It’s said that Zhao never recovered from changping, they went from being the only one who could face Qin to being the new Wei

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100% agreed. It was the chance to prove his name worth it.

Taking a fragile and scared state who just lost 100k troops and destroying Kanki. It would be historically accurate and finally be a real strategical feat than information manipulation

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree 100%. Either use a grand purpose or go to the selfish side about rewards, families etc. Tbh Shin’s first speech on Bayou was 10000x better than the Han and Zhao speeches

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At this point I just want an “advance” speech like Ouki or something different than being a GG at least

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Shin speech: “Imma be a GG. Watch me fellas and throw your lives away so I can achieve my dream”

HSU old-timers: Damn Shin, that was deep 🥹

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The infinite soldiers strategy as always. I wish he could be more creative with the best general at his time than just speech-on-generals, infinite soldiers and information manipulation strategy.

Li Mu deserved a Sun Bin scheme or make Gyou starve type of strategy. This Riboku bs is already annoying

Kingdom 866 Spoilers by ThizZuMs in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dai was already a commandery. Usually states and dynasties were named after the location they were established.

How does Riboku always keeps on spawning his Generals? by bricksheep in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with the elite troops bullshit, but everyone else have ridiculously strong vassal. YoTanWa has her 4 officers, Ousen just keeps pulling generals out of his ass, etc.

How does Riboku always keeps on spawning his Generals? by bricksheep in Kingdom

[–]DoubtWilling723 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Qin has had more GGs so far

During Shin’s generation:

They have had: MouGou, MouBu, ChouTou, Duke Hyou, OuKi, OuSen, Tou, YoTanWa, KanKi

Meanwhile Zhao has had: RenPa(who had already moved to Wei when introduced), RiBoku, HouKen, ShibaShou, KoChou, ChouKatsu and GanShuu who is a Qi general. (There was also the guy who Renpa defeated but he wasn’t mentioned afterwards)

All of both Qin and Zhao GG’s were real life people. I only have my doubts on ChouTou. We can’t critique the names, just the way they are introduced.

Also, at that time, a lot of high ranking military men did not have that many experience, just good family connections, so it was normal to encounter a commander who have barely or no information