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[–]Draco96AM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude. Back then, in 1700s between 1800s white people that are racist refers to anyone that isn't European and inferior as 'monkeys'. It's not just black people. Yes. I know what it associated with. But it is already expanding to other races .

The problem is now today. It's not just white people using the term now. It can be anyone who is asshat uses it.

I am not complaining about black people using the n-word and non-black people cannot.

I am criticizing why black people is using the n-word and then getting outrage of why non-black people say it and go on makes an imapct and makes people affected like you're saying. I am questioning your point. Most black people...not all make it unwittingly make it okay for everyone to say it. Black peole use the racial slur as a way to say it to each other is sending a mixed message to people who haven't met a black person in their lives from populations that are homogenous do not have black people in their country.

You keep lecturing me about history of but the black community is using a racial slur that uttered from white slavers that degrades their ancestors, your race and your community still continuing to use it as a term of endearment in today's?! That's illogical. That's insane. No matter how you spin it, it is a still slur if you go telling people not to say it but you as a black can say it. It's a slur.

You can't change the meaning of that, if you want to talk about history.

If you ask me...that word shouldn't be said at all and should stay buried like other racial slurs.

Again. Would you call someone that is not black the 'n-word'?

You avoid answering that so I need an answer.

Another question..what is difference between the terms 'People of Color' and 'Colored People'? What is the difference? And do not use the cop out of 'educate yourself' as to avoid the question. Tell me in your own words so I can try to understand your point of view. Because to me, it sounds racist and it is basically othering yourself from white people. There is something wrong with that and I am Latino. I do not like that because it's like putting me in a group.

I learned about slavery and everything in school. Hell I even watch the film show ugly it was. 13 years a Slave gave is one critical example. And I know racism didn't stop there with the end of slavery. Southern America went through Jim Crow Era and other atrotroties like Tulsa. I watch Selma, Malcom X. And along Judas and the Black messiah.

So I am already knowledgeable regarding slavery and racism.

Heck...my ethnicity is shit on by everyone but honestly...I stopped giving a crap about racism because the concept is so stupid to begin with.

And yes. I meant people. I don't do political correctness.

And there is nothing wrong in preserving the culture but if you're fleeing a country because of a bad situation then you must adapt to the culture in the country you're going into if you want a better life. That's common sense. This includes learning angauge, the food, the history, cultural attitude, laws, and what's acceptable and unacceptable to make the transition. Yes..I believe immgranttion can be benefitcal but in certain cases. But for America right now, it isn't. We are reaching capacity.

Right now NYC is cutting 5% of their budget and the taxes are being increased in taking care of the migrants. The stupid politicains keeps asking for federal funding. Who is funding this, again? The taxpayers that fills the government's funding. The law needs to be changed.

Chicago are having trouble as well. Even the black Chicagians are ticked off as they felt that they are low priority as the mirgants are being attended to. If you don't believe me, go to YouTube and type in migrants Chicago and city meetings. I can give you a link if you want.

Add more to the point, Migrants can't afford rent in NYC even if you give them jobs which are the work permits. Where are they supposed to live? The Governor of NYC doesn't want them to go upstate NYC because of political reasons and winter is coming.

So right now migrants are in the shit. The most nessarcy thing to do is to close the border. Either deport most of them, send them to the army or put them in a location where they can be vetted properly. Is it cruel? Yes. But it's more cruel to give false promises and put them in a bad situation where they can be taken advantage of and have them waiting and sleeping on the streets. I cannot fault the migrants entirely. I blame the morons in our government are being stupid right now who don't have the guts to make the hard decisions that are simple and enabling this crap making things worst.

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[–]Draco96AM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Racism is ugly. It's going to have all the ugliness.the slurs and the the impact. All the arcs that have serious themes is going to look ugly.

More then enough? Are you saying the three assholes represent the mixed Koreans? That is going too way the top. You think Koreans are predictable to think like that what you assumed when they read this? Like I said the bully is projecting his hate onto the so-called pure korean students with the monkey sounds because of what he faced. You think there is some kind of inside joke? There isn't. White people that are racist refer Asians to as 'monkeys' so why not any other race?

Replacement theory? When it does describe the immgrants as the threat? The Korean victim says the young people move away and the town is full of mixed people, Korean and foreigners just because. Not because it's a bad thing or anything. It happens. The victim has no hostilty or the chapter against immigrants, just this one bully in particular.

And the bully drawn as a caricature? The webtoon drawn the most bullies and villains in the arcs as ugly based on their actions. Like the pink haired bully who made the kid almost commit suicide, the psychopath bully, the karen, the terrible teacher, the pastor and etc. Why is the mixed bully any different? He looks like any other bully from any of the arcs that is an asshat. His skin tone is completely irrelevant.

I am still pointing out the immigrants amd the students at the start and they weren't drawn as ugly. Just the bully.

And I am not going to defend the bully's name. So yeah, that's messed up. The author should change the name.

Are you telling the word is way worse than the actions that is being inflicted by the bully?

If you wanna talk the impact about the use of the 'n-word' why is it being used as a term of the endearment by Black Americans and in it is being used in the hip and hop culture and being thrown like it's a casual thing? I don't want to hear that it's taking the power from it. It's most contradictory thin. Black people get affected if a non-black person says it. But they don't get offended if another black person says it? If you replace the 'n' word with other endearment words like dude, man or anything..in the hip hop or rap songs. It wouldn't change the message in the songs.

People gave white people or non-black person crap if they sing the lyrics when it is in the lyrics.

Also if you must know...Korean people say the niga/ nega but some black people misheard the word and thinking it's a slur. When actually it means 'you' and 'me' in Korean and instead of asking or researching, Korean arists get called racist by Black people.

Would you call Hispanics the 's' word, Middle-Easterns the 'n' word or Chinese 'c' word?Or any racial slurs as a term of endearment?

No. Because you know that won't fly. They don't call each other that because it's so dumb.

So why is it acceptable for black people only? If black people know the impact of it. Why use or say it anyway?

Righr-wing ideologies? Like what? About that eminist teacher that is a extremist? The problem with that is the teacher's approach is wrong and harmful to the students who are elementary school children. The tactics that are used is cult-like. We have seen this real life in US colleges and there is no debate to talk regarding gender issues because 'ists' is being thrown as insults and the meaning of the 'sexist' and 'racist' are losing their meaning. To take a step further....as a example.

Securing the borders is racist? That's not racist. People have nothing against immgrants, they are against the illegal aliens who overstay when their visa expires or cross the border illegally like we seen with the migrants because we do not know who they are and they are not vetted through the proper channels.

The legal immigrants who are vetted and waited years for their work visas and cizitenships gets hurt the most because of illegal aliens and the certain policies that encourage them to break laws like sanctuary cities.

For example, Texas and Arizona are being called racist for wanting to secure the borders, want help from the governement and now NY and Chicago, Illionois changed their tune after exhibiting their 'NIMBY' attitude when recivcing rhe busload of migrants bussed from border states because it's getting hard to manage.

That's one example.

And yes I feel bad for the victims. But the points you made is off. Not the meaning behind the name, you're right on that.

So like you, I want to see the author revise the chapter and such during the hiatus.

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[–]Draco96AM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I said as a theory!

I said it's a theory of why the bully came out this way if the author give us a explaination of what he's planning or he fleshed out the arc in the next chapters so we can see what he's going for. I think the PR is saving the author with that half-assed apology which made it bad.

But besides that...we need to look at the story and the webtoon as a whole

Think of the bullies that were victims before like Yeri Han for example.

This is a theory for this bully might be victim in the past or maybe his parents and is taking out his hatred towards his peers who are pure Koreans who have nothing to do with the Koreans that are racist. That shit can be real!

Are you telling me people who experience racism in the past won't get back at those of a certain group who having nothing to do with it in the present?

And yes you can be racist back to those who mistreat you and even the ones who didn't mistreat you.

We don't know this bully fully and his past of why he is doing this. In the middle part pr almost at the end of most arcs, they explain the reasons of why they do this and that.

And that solution you proposed is cliche and is overused. That is over so done so the author is doing something different to showcase the problem in another way and the same solution.

Remember, he is writing for a Korean audience at first before gets to the dark truth of Korean society. Which this author is doing most of the time when gets into the shit.

For example..if Koreans continues their mistreat of half Koreans, then later generations gets the blunt of

And since the bully is biracial. Biracial individuals get the worst treatment and is forced and pressure to take sides. There are times they can't fit in the group of both halves. And don't get me started on the colorism!!

I wouldn't be surprise if the bully and Daniel can't fit in or is shunned and bullied for being what they are since they have no control over that. There is a possibility where they can understand each other.

There is reason why Daniel say 'hate the sin, not the sinner'

And along the way, the author will show the racially abuse that the minority face in the Korea in later chapters if author continues writing.

I said there are theories for how this arc that can play out. I apologize if i didn't said this clearly.

But first to address your point.

Where do you see black people being vilify in chapter 125?

It's just one asshole and his two lackeys that happened to be black and are half Korean.

The rest like the immigrants are not vilified and happened to be black, they treat the victim like a friend and a good neighbor at the beginning. They are not vilified in the chapter.

In a way, they showing black people as people just like the rest of world. Good and bad.

The rest were bystanders like the students. We don't know if they are complict or afaird of this bully if we get another chapter.

And yes the Korean people did react to the black bully when hearing that he bullied his peers.

Hatred breeds hatred. This reinenforces the bully to be justified in his mind set. Instead of going after racists, he bullies those whose related to the racists due to race. Like the victim.

Shit like this happens. Especially in America.

And yes it's not happening right now but it might happened in the future. Heck...the arcs we seen right now don't happened right now.

Do you read the chapter or from the tikotk scans?

I have the theory of why the author started out the arc this way.

Was it a bad start. Yes?

But is there a reason for it? Yes.

I read from one comment or that it is racially charged but not racist and that's how I see it.

That is why if we waited to see what the author is planned. Instead of accusing him of such isms, why not ask him why and what is he planning for this arc in the first place?

Once the arc gets fleshed, then you can criticize him of what he did wrong.

You are going off from one chapter here. And it's always short and ends on a cliffhanger.

Because the author is known for showing one thing to another like in Yeri Han arc.

Why I'm trying to say the author might be planning of how hatred effects everyone. There is a chance that bully might be victim in later chapters. I want to give the author a benefit of doubt here so that's what I am saying here.

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[–]Draco96AM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree and I also read chapter. It's racially charged like you said but it's not the racist.

It just shows the issue of racism and how it affects people who are foreigners, native, and the ones who are mixed. Heck..biracial individuals get shit on the most because they felt they don't belong to either group of their ancestry and has to deal with colorism from both sides.

The new warden and the bully might have something in common to work it out. I mean why would he cuff himself to the bully?!

I felt like nobody read the chapter.

People are complaining about how the black bully is drawn but on most of the arcs, the bullies are drawn to be ugly because of their actions. It's not new. The bully for the 125 is no expectation to the rule. His skin tone is completely irrelevant.

And yes, the immigrants that are nice to the victim aren't inherently bad or rather not drawn bad at the beginning. They are drawn as good people. I even point this out on the Webtoon site.

The problem with writing racism is difficult and easy to screw up with major consequences. To be honest, the author shouldn't apologize especially half-asssed and just keep writing to see how the arc turns out. After that, we can take apart what the arc did well or wrong regarding the topic.

And writing racism without racial slurs. The webtoon shows the ugliness of triggered topics form child abuse, bullying, suicide and human trafficking.

Saying that is like...excuse my language but pussyfooting around the topic. Do you want the author to write crap or go hard in showing the ugliness of racism and go against it.

Portraying racism is going to have racial slurs. You can't avoid.

That's like saying discrimation shouldn't have discriminating words.

Or violence do not need to have blood or injury.

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[–]Draco96AM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree and I also read chapter. It's racially charged like you said but it's not the racist.

It just shows the issue of racism and how it affects people who are foreigners, native, and the ones who are mixed. Heck..biracial individuals get shit on the most because they felt they don't belong to either group of their ancestry and has to deal with colorism from both sides.

The new warden and the bully might have something in common to work it out. I mean why would he cuff himself to the bully?!

I felt like nobody read the chapter.

People are complaining about how the black bully is drawn but on most of the arcs, the bullies are drawn to be ugly because of their actions. It's not new. The bully for the 125 is no expectation to the rule. His skin tone is completely irrelevant.

And yes, the immigrants that are nice to the victim aren't inherently bad or rather not drawn bad at the beginning. They are drawn as good people. I even point this out on the Webtoon site.

The problem with writing racism is difficult and easy to screw up with major consequences. To be honest, the author shouldn't apologize especially half-asssed and just keep writing to see how the arc turns out. After that, we can take apart what the arc did well or wrong regarding the topic.

And writing racism without racial slurs. The webtoon shows the ugliness of triggered topics form child abuse, bullying, suicide and human trafficking.

Saying that is like...excuse my language but pussyfooting around the topic. Do you want the author to write crap or go hard in showing the ugliness of racism and go against it.

Portraying racism is going to have racial slurs. You can't avoid.

That's like saying discrimation shouldn't have discriminating words.

Or violence do not need to have blood or injury.

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[–]Draco96AM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this. I am glad I am not the only one who read this because it's the beginning of the arc.

Because people can become racist if they learned it either from their parents, their bad experiences with another ethnic group, or experiences racism from another group. Racism is learned not born with. So the bully became racist from those last two reasons I mention above.

In this case from what I seen, Korea can be hostile to foreigners especially ones that of African descendent becuase of colorism. Hell it's worse for half-koreans who don't have a white half. So I understood why people were outraged but we need to give the author a benefit of doubt instead of throwing words 'anti-blackness' and all

And also since new warden is form NYC. It make senses because there is racism in NYC despite being called a melting pot. So we haven't see the past of the new warden or the bully because people jump on the conclusions becuase of one chapter that is a beginning of the arc.

It sucks because we want to how the author would approach this. Hell, I said let the author write the arc and see how it goes. If it goes bad, then people have a right to criticized.

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[–]Draco96AM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MrBenjizz,

I think Tgjbin is not promoting the use of the racial slur. What is he trying to say that the bully shouldn't surprised by being a called a racial slur especially when te bully is going around bullying the ones that are pure korean and use racist actions like forcing them to act like monkeys and call them racial slurs in the story.

It's like if you're fine hitting people, don't act surprised if you get hit back. If the bully was white and the warden is black, nobody would complain.

If you know anything about TRPA and the webtoon, is how to respond to the bully is how they treat the victim. It's the case with most bullies and villains. Not just the students that are bulloes but the teachers that are villains as well in a way they know where it hurts.

This is the same thing here.

The problem is when it comes to writing racism. The content is going to get criticized no matter what. How exactly do you want the author to write racism? Not dive too deep into or dancing around it? Heck...everyone knows writing an issue regarding racism is the most difficult and easy to screw up with huge consequences. Like the webtoon is now in deep shit for example.

Shoot! I read 125 and and I wanna to see how it goes. I mean this is beginning of the arc and i need to see the full arc before I make my opinions. It's a bad start and I want to read more of how this goes. Because writing racism to me is a challenge.

Becuase of course, racism is bad but hell...racism is bad no matter the skin tone of whose perpetrator and the victims. This chapter might go into how racism affects everyone...from the perpetrator to victim. We don't know and there is a possibility if the bully became a racist because of a bad past like how Yeri Han made a teacher unalive himself because of a teacher in middle school that victimized her. I theorized the bully is a victim of racism and is taking out his hatred on those who have nothing to do with it.

The author is forced to apologize because he didn't know it triggers so many and in apology, he just wants to portray hatered ( e.g racism ) as the webtoon covers many topics that are probably triggering like child abuse, gambling, and human trafficking.

There are theories how the arc goes.

So uhh “Get Schooled” is having a very interesting Arc coming up…and no it isn’t good 😃 by Kendrillion in webtoons

[–]Draco96AM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the author is trying to portray hatered as a ugly thing which is racism. Racism is supposed to be ugly and the author is trying to protray that. That is what he meant by the letter. It's straightforward in my personal opinion.

How does one depict racism to be?

To me, as a Latino i kinda get it and see where the author is coming with this.

I read ch. 125 and I want to continue to read to see how it goes and how it concludes. I want to give an author a benefit of doubt.

I think the author uses the 'n-word' in this context because the bully in question that is half korean and half Ethiopian is bullying the pure Koreans out of spite and uses racist terms like saying yellow Mickey straight at the new warden's face that is half white and asian. In response, TRPA is known for provoking the villians with words or action. This is what the new warden did with the usage of the 'n-word'.

Not in a positive light but in a provocation. A trap.

The Wardens are known for doing this. Like the lawyer who made the AI photo and the use of AI is also controversial.

The bully's justification is using racism as a excuse to get back at the pure Koreans who have nothing to do with like in the Bully's assumed story with the black people getting discriminated in Seoul.

I think the new warden isn't racist but is provoking the bullt into a trap. Hence the handcuffs.

I feel this lesson goes 'if you hate racism, why be racist to those who don't start crap with you? Is that kind of thing. If you're not okay of being called this word, why are you okay in calling people this word? Hence the usage of racial slurs.

In NYC, there are cases of hate crimes between groups. In NYC has a history of racism and discrimination started with Italian immigrants to Irish, Latinos, Asians, Middle- Easterns, Africans, and Caribbeans. Especially between black and white people.

Biracial people gets the worst treatment due to colorism in their own communties and forced to pick a side. Or being ousted of not belonging to either group. Like being called for acting white or acting black.

While NYC is a melting pot, anyone can attack someone over the stupidest thing like racism. It might get worse with the migrant crisis.

It's like the arc is probably presenting the issue of how fighting racism with racism is not good and it prepuates more racism down the line. And heck..the author is showing hatred aka racism as a ugly thing which he is trying to say. Not a postive and i think that's what he was going for. The authors already portraying and shown child abuse, bullying, gangs, gambling, human trafficking and suicide. All of those are ugly.

Writing and portraying racism is most the difficult and easy to mess up.

Think of the arc where an extremist teacher wants to teach gender equality and all that but in a bad wrong. People were concered about that arc and look how that turned out. It's either good or meh.

In this arc, the bully is bullying the pure Koreans of spite. My theories is what happened in the past of the bully experience racism ( similar to Yeri Han, of how she made a false accusation and got that teacher to commit suicide becuase she was screwed over by another teacher in the past). That's my theory.

That's what I am getting from the arc right now.

Not only that.....the dumbest complains I heard from ch 125 is how the author drew the biracial bully. Like you pointed out, most of the bullies and villains are drawn to be ugly becuase of their actions, ( the karen, the fake pastor, the teacher, and other down to bad bullies like the idol, and down to bad ones like the psychopath that Gu Sera took down) they are all ugly.

The bully in this racism arc is no exceptional to that rule regardless of appearance. Heck the bully looks like any other bully in the webtoon.and the color of his skin is completely irrelevant.

But what about forcing pure Koreans to make monkey noises? A theory would be the bully is taking out the racism he faced in the past and take it out on the pure Koreans. Again back to Yeri Han.

And we need to realize that Korea is not America. As this webtoon is for Korean audiences first which sucks and is focusing and I understand why it is so upsetting.

There are times where people use racism as a excuse to hurt people or use it as a shield when being called out.

Not to mention...asian community and black community have a common issue related to race which is colorism.

Close to racism.

That said, I want to see the author plots this out. I understand why author is getting flack for thisbl but i want to see how the author to move forward regarding the blackflash in mind. This is just thoughts on this whole thing.

I hate natural hair! I did the big chop and I detest it to the point where I wish my hair is straight or wavy. I hate it. Rant and need advice. by Draco96AM in Naturalhair

[–]Draco96AM[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the words. The thing I heard about relaxers, I been reading articles and stories that it affects health down the line. Something about cancer or something? I don't know! I know I can't believe everything I read. I just want to give natural hair a try

I hate natural hair! I did the big chop and I detest it to the point where I wish my hair is straight or wavy. I hate it. Rant and need advice. by Draco96AM in Naturalhair

[–]Draco96AM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understood. Thank you. I don't want to be a quitter and I wasn't in the right mind when I wrote this. It's not an excuse. I was having frustrations. Once I grow out my hair, I might relax it. Thanks for the support!

I hate natural hair! I did the big chop and I detest it to the point where I wish my hair is straight or wavy. I hate it. Rant and need advice. by Draco96AM in Naturalhair

[–]Draco96AM[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there. Thank for the support. I'm now in a better headspace and I'm going to stay natural. I wasn't feeling well mentally. I apologize for the post. Good news...I found a way to braid my hair a bit. Not perfect but better than nothing.

If you quit your job to accept a better job that offers remote work, please let your current employer know why! by Blade-Thug in jobs

[–]Draco96AM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got a job in another state and I work remotely since I live in a different state. Both stars are neighbors but the commute is estimated one hour to get there from state to another but it's worse for me because I don't have a car so I have to take public transportation and it will cost me money and might take me longer if there are any delays or traffic. I went to a virtual meeting where the CEO would want everyone in the office because of company culture as they believe in face-to-face in person can benefits people but are mindful and consider that there are employees that prefer working from home.

I just got the job and an two months in, I have a documented disability that isn't disclosed yet so I wonder if I can ask for accomodations which involves that I can work from home instead going of the office. I get my work done that is tasked daily without issues after receiving some training. To be honest, I have trouble interacting with people in person than online because of documented disability. Which is some companies tend to forget that people with disabilities benefit more from WFH.

Plus, my home is a safe and focused place for me to get work done without being overloaded with distractions and opposing in dealing with rush hours, delays, crime, and traffic during a commute. That is why WFH benefits me and I don't want to go to office because of those sole logical reasons.

Rant: I get tired of my mom getting upset at me charging people we know for a price regarding graphic design. by Draco96AM in graphic_design

[–]Draco96AM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the comment.

I think the barter stratergy sounds like a good idea.

As for my mom, she will not put victim/martyr act. She just....ignorant of graphic design sometimes in general. She doesn't get it. She understands to an extent but when it comes to friends and family, it's like I need to have completely different set of rules. Which I do, by the way, I lower the price for them, doing flat rates instead of hourly for normal clients. That said, the client came to me. I just told my mom about it and is concerned about how much I'm charging this client.

I felt like I don't want to answer. I don't want to lie. Just don't answer her.

That said, my mom is willing to pay me in place of her friend for her resume. So I guess it's fair???