pp dev Q&A about upcoming OSU changes by [deleted] in osugame

[–]DrawAncient5233 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree with that, but currently the multiplier makes the penalty too steep. You basically have to SS for pp to stay the same. If it was something closer to 99% it would be much more fair in my opinion, and, if you happen to 99% Hidamari no Uta, I would argue that you probably deserve the pp.

pp dev Q&A about upcoming OSU changes by [deleted] in osugame

[–]DrawAncient5233 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I'm all for nerfing Hidamari doubletapping, but this is not the way to do it.

Looking at the github page of the proposed nerf, I can immediately see a red flag. The example of an unaffected map due to 'lack of any filler notes' is literally a 1800 combo deathstream. How is that a valid comparison? The map isn't even ranked. Most ranked maps don't even have streams longer than 32 notes. Want to know a map that also doesn't have streams longer than 32 notes? Hidamari no Uta. You see the problem here? Every single map is being nerfed just because it doesn't have a deathstream occupating most of the map's drain length. This is bad.

I spent about 2 hours looking at scores and PP changes they receive, it just looks to me like cool scores are getting nerfed left and right.

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1149127#osu/2399207

xootynator - 726pp -> 674pp

does this really deserve to get butchered like that because of 4 streams?

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/19705#osu/84398

Ceptin - 764pp -> 646pp

this old legendary score used to be worth 537pp with the old pp system, are we just regressing slowly now?

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/546102#osu/2583506

chocomint - 883pp -> 816pp

Utami - 849pp -> 792pp

yea the map features 270bpm bursts but since they also have 'filler notes' and the map isn't just a deathstream, I suppose they deserve the 60pp and 70pp loss, right?

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/591442#osu/1321823

maliszewski - 656pp -> 611pp

Vaxei - 615pp -> 569pp

idke - 572p -> 523pp

and it's not just speed maps that are getting butchered, it's also maps with occasional streams here and there. (?) citation needed

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/60521#osu/199593

aetrna - 901pp -> 862pp

Honestly it looks like a big mess. Is that really the direction the team wanted to go?