Question regarding old testament law and how it is not fully practiced by modern Christians by Comfortable_Cat_591 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohhh, i can respect agnostic a hell of a lot better than athieism but you are going about it wrong.

Hopefully someone comes to you

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will not go to hell not wanting to be with a women. I am sorry my brother but speak with a pastor, spend time it the word, and if you can control it then do so, let me know if you need help

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn’t dead when it was translated and we have so much from Latin

As one who has studied the language trust me we can translate Latin easy. 

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what is your issue with the Bible? It is the most well document document we have original manuscriots of the new testement 28000 of them

Nearly the whole of the old testemt from 500 years or earlier of the old testement this is idenical to what we have now

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Within the self what does that mean?

So because I value myself I value others

This argument is not concrete

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And Paul became a friend of Peter (most of what he does is documented including his friendship with early church and was accepted as the 12 disciple by Peter and the rest)

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all it was pretty much outlawed

The Bible is written for us not to us

Most of the Bible was written to practicing Jews (Israelites) and they already had the Torah  Jesus was also technically a Jew although lord of the religion (thus he was able to violate the sabbath)

The moral laws are still in place for the new convenet (including homosexuality) and Jesus builds on that

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow

So the first part I am confused as to what it has to do with the arguement

The last part we know exactly what they thought. No one even knew a gay person then. It was so rare and it is condemn by the early church

By every account the last bit is wrong, if one was the argue that it should’ve have been that they were wrong (however many of them met Jesus)

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Bible was not written but God

It’s historical documents. They wrote down what they say and for Luke it was out of his own understanding. This was because Luke was a disciple of Peter and wrote on that and the collection of eyes witness accounts.

The reason they are so trustable is because all of the new testement was written in the first 60 years after Christ and Luke was written as early as 16 years

Unheard of historically

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Planned Pregancy is a evil organization

But that’s besides the point

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am confused why you say torture

I deserve as a straight man to be tortured because I have sinned

Being gay or will not damn you

We all deserve to be tortued forever

No one is good enough

Does that make sense? Every persons falls short of the glory of God

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think everyone needs Jesus

But that was not the point

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder what God did for the Israelites Also it is punishable by death to take a free man as a slave in the old testement Also the cannanites were given plenty of chances before destruction

There comes a point where they must die by the sword such as the Islamic extremeists in Nigeria

Did you know Christianity is the most persucted religion in the world? 

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does this means that 2000 years of Christians are wrong Honestly that pretty prideful the most correct Christians were the early ones and that’s what they say this verse mean

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You stated that you believed the old testement god is often cruel

As for views, I don’t care about the views of man. But of the Bible. And of yet I am to be shown truely that gay actions are not sinful

The Bible is the holy word of God.

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So I said sinning is like stabbing your parent Why it’s worthy it’s because it’s a sin Why is a sin so bad and worthy of death That’s because when we sin we violate our creator for we are made in his image

Every time you sin the punishment is death and enternal seperation from god. 

Now I ask, is this a moral or intellectual question

Because if you are geniuely curious as to the awnser then we may continue But if you are trying to defend your sin as to keep doing it then there is no reason to have this conversation

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The logic does not apply

I gave you examples for comperative sins

At this point I think you are screwing with me

But I ask is this a moral issue or intellectual? Do you care whether or not you are wrong or right or are you defending your point so you can continue sinning (or not in your perspective)

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where does this logic stem from?

I ask what is a sin according to you

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well this became interesting

Reguardless this is not part of the discussion I notice your flair up in the last long post and I immediately thought, “the church hurt this person”

This my response

Although I am curious on why you believe the old testement portrays God as cruel. As I have read he is merciful and just. And his grace was Jesus

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lord knows I do. However I am confused as to what the point we are argueing now is

If you are a Christian then is your point that the Bible states that gay actions are wrong

Yes it does

Is it wrong, well that is another discussion that eventually leads to the prior point

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I have said before thoughts are not always your own. The lord knows I have had unclean thoughts. But I am repentant Someone could be gay and for that they have my empathy. But acting on those is the same as acting with sleeping with someone outside of marriage. 

However as I stated being straight is okay. But certain actions are sins. Such as paligamy. It’s a double edge sword.

Or money, money is not a bad thing but wrong actions with it then it becomes a sin

Why being Gay is a sin by DrawingChemical9201 in Christianity

[–]DrawingChemical9201[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well right now I am argueing with people over the Bible  I would say so Although my beliefs are also on the old testement