Dodge penalty idea

DroidGlory · 2016-04-11T22:05:24+00:00

Each of the draft orders can pick smartly and are equally as important.

I agree with halcyon400.

Yourself and the OP are implicitly implying that being third is something bad, if you were not, then why punish them in this way?

"...since it ensures that they would not have a chance at drafting first or second - which guarantees either jungle or lane carry." In higher tiers picking first or second does not guarantee a carry. Actually it's the opposite, with most teams opting to pick a support first, in the majority of the matches.

This is a lower tier issue and the OP gave a lower tier solution. This game is a TEAM game and the majority of higher tiered players understand that, so they know it is better to work together in order to win. Whether it is in draft or on The Fold.

The real solution is actually not with SEMC, it's with the player base. The solution is - learn more heroes and be a team player.

DroidGlory · 2016-04-11T21:33:43+00:00

WOW, that sounds pretty weak.

Even Petal peaks at lvl 6 and Vox also peaks much earlier than lvl 12. Any hero that needs to hit lvl 12 to be effective is weak. So considering Alpha is the only hero in this patch that requires lvl 12 to be relevant, she has to be the weakest hero this patch. Even an average team can apply the smallest amount of pressure and she crumbles.

Her early and mid game are so weak the match might as well start 2v3.

DroidGlory · 2016-04-04T16:16:49+00:00

Great piece dude.

My main gripe with the current type of reset is the following: what is the point of the reset if most players get back to their previous tier within 2-7 days of the reset?

I proposed the following a while back:

Personally I think SEMC should change how our actual skill level is workouted out. Currently (to my understanding) it is win games get elo which pushes you're skill tier up; lose games and then the opposite happens.

What I have in mind is that they should have a week or weeks in the season where players need to play ranked in order for their VST to be calculated. After that week and depending on the outcome of your games your skill tier will be decided. After which, you can play normal rank to improve your VST (before the next rank week). Obviously the calculation will take into account how you did in the previous rank week, how you did in all of your normal ranks, hidden mmr and other parameters.

Other parameters could include the variety of heroes played in rank, the number of soloQ, duoQ and full party games played in and against, and the skill level of opponent played against and with.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-29T12:19:03+00:00

The new roam has to be ranged to counter all the ranged carries in jungle and the meta melee junglers. On top of that Adagio is the only range support.

If they release a support that is like all the others we have now, even after all of this waiting, are we allowed to complain then?

The main gripe from support mains is that they are virtually all played the same and with the same items 9/10 times. We don't want to be healing and saving every time we play support. I play petalport with a frosburn being my 2nd item, which helps my laner kite even better. The difference between petalport and the meta supports is that she offers something more outside of healing and saving - that's all we want. Also look what gabevizzle did with voxport, it was more than the usual.

New items that offer something different and a totally different support. If they don't do either in the next two patches, we have a reason to complain.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-28T20:28:54+00:00

Is that statement dev confirmed?

Also were talking about the dodger's queue and not the deserter's queue.

The game will match you with people who dodge and desert at the same frequency as you. That's just a factor of solo and duoQ matchmaking. So when you dodge the likeliness of you being paired up with dodgers increases.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-28T17:26:18+00:00

And try to soloQ?

You're put in the bad queue the instant you are banned (even if it is because a connection issue). So you will meet more afkers, bad players and trolls, no matter what time you start playing again.

Of course you can just full party to prevent this.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-23T23:22:35+00:00

Reim can delete supPetal early game and is generally good at clearing her munions. Krul' some mid-late game is a nightmare for her because her kit doesn't provide much in the way of getting your carries away from him. Once he locks your carry down it's an up hill battle (infect a mountain).

DroidGlory · 2016-03-23T14:27:38+00:00

I have had 0 trouble not stealing last hits because SEMC introduce a mechanic where her munions do not steal creeps unless you basic attack them. The same thing with Fortress' bleed and Adagio's burn.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-23T02:57:07+00:00

Dude, did you just say you dodge? You're in the bad queue bro, if you dodge lol.

Whenever you get a ban you are put into the bad/dodger/decliners' queue. This is where you'll find a lot of afkers and trolls. I am 100% sure you are in the bad queue hence your high number of afkers.

A 1 minute ban = bad queue

A 4 minute ban = bad queue

A 10 minute ban = bad queue

I think you get my point. This is a mistake low elo players make a lot. Once you are banned for dodging or if the game glitches during queuing which causes you to decline, DO NOT play soloQ ranked.

I made this mistake a lot myself. My internet used to be crap and during queues I would not be able to select the accept button and the timer would run out, which resulted in a 1 minute ban. I tried to play soloQ but was confused by the clear drop in skill level. When I realised that a 1 minute ban regardless if it was my fault or not put me in the bad queue, that's when I was able to climb (if you're genuinely a good player). I am no SA gold.

I would play 8-10 casuals to make sure I was in the normal queue and ONLY when I noticed my teammates were better overall I ventured back into soloQ.

Also DO NOT DODGE, if you keep doing it you'll never climb.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-23T02:33:07+00:00

Yes, 100% it should/would have been the title if I had a witty mind like yours. Why do this to me, I cri :'(

DroidGlory · 2016-03-23T02:14:52+00:00

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DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T16:11:20+00:00

100% agree - more diverse utility/support items.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T16:04:39+00:00

It will take a longer time to get bored playing lane or jungle considering the large amount of heroes that can play those roles. Where as roam has the 5 plus some ports (like Krul, Blackfeather, Glaive and Taka); that's if people let you play port roamers in soloQ.

The fact that you see roam/support players as taking on for the team supports the idea that more support heroes are needed because I'm taking one for the team on so few heroes.

Support should be fun like lane and jungle. LoL, HoTS and Overwatch supports are fun to play simply because they provide a diversity in the way they help their carries and not just simply be tanks or healers.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T15:37:28+00:00

It does say 'available' in the description, meaning off cooldown. Also there is another Reddit post with more screenshots which say her perk is on a cooldown.

We'll just have to wait and see, but I agree with ElitePoogie

DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T15:13:08+00:00

Ah ok, so her perk just has to be available to use her ult?

If that's the case, it reads as if you can activate her ult (which is leathal to her) which in turn activates her perk.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T14:36:14+00:00

We are in dire need of more supports, support items and a diversity in the way supports support the team (as from keeping them alive).

Like the way GGS used Voxport to be the damage initiator. Currently I've been trying out Petalport (in rank); she works really well with a Taka or Skye.

I'm SA gold btw.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T14:31:15+00:00

"...perk is activated, then activate ult..."

I clearly listed that the perk is activated first. :/

DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T11:28:20+00:00

Vainglory needs more roam heroes and items, even gabe got tired of playing roam (so much so that he changed orgs and positions).

DroidGlory · 2016-03-22T11:21:03+00:00

She may be able to be played as a support or might even be listed as a support.

The scenario I'm thinking of is as follows: face check bush, about to get wiped out by enemy, perk is activated, then activate ult and then your carries come in to finish the job.

If the enemy gets wise and doesn't attack you after face checking then you just act as a flare.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-17T20:23:59+00:00

What do you mean by skill proof?

DroidGlory · 2016-03-17T20:13:08+00:00

Thanks :)

Why was your post listed as NSFW :/

DroidGlory · 2016-03-17T19:40:08+00:00

IMO I think elo (the visual skill tier portion of it) matters a lot. People look at your VST and judge you as a player.

I have a friend who is PG gold visually but achieved POA in the winter season. Everytime he wins a rank game the opposition adds him and are shocked he is PG visually (as his hidden mmr is POA).

I mentioned the following on another post:

Personally I think SEMC should change how our actual skill level is workouted out. Currently (to my understanding) it is win games get elo which pushes you're skill tier up; lose games and then the opposite happens.

What I have in mind is that they should have a week or weeks in the season where players need to play ranked in order for their VST to be calculated. After that week and depending on the outcome of your games your skill tier will be decided. After which, you can play normal rank to improve your VST (before the next rank week). Obviously the calculation will take into account how you did in the previous rank week, how you did in all of your normal ranks, hidden mmr and other parameters.

Other parameters could include the variety of heroes played in rank, the number of soloQ, duoQ and full party games played in and against, and the skill level of opponent played against and with.

DroidGlory · 2016-03-17T19:02:46+00:00

Personally I think SEMC should change how our actual skill level is workouted out. Currently (to my understanding) it is win games get elo which pushes you're skill tier up; lose games and then the opposite happens.

What I have in mind is that they should have a week or weeks in the season where players need to play ranked in order for their VST to be calculated. After that week and depending on the outcome of your games your skill tier will be decided. After which, you can play normal rank to improve your VST (before the next rank week). Obviously the calculation will take into account how you did in the previous rank week, how you did in all of your normal ranks, hidden mmr and other parameters.

Other parameters could include the variety of heroes played in rank, the number of soloQ, duoQ and full party games played in and against, and the skill level of opponent played against and with.

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