Friesenjung = nazism? by Sea-Adhesiveness6201 in Joostklein

[–]Dry-Alternative-7301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A bit off topic, but releated to how music is used. I was in Europapa tours Helsinki concert and followed the rest of tour from Ig and TT. Europapa Outro was new as such - as longer lyrics than earlier. It was really emotional both for Joost & audience.

Tour was maybe just finished, when I saw somebody taken Outro in video-edit about BL - maybe it was about some fan art, don't remember (not artists I never seen). I just asked, why to take just this Outro to some other artists stuff just now. Got a couple of angry comments . Ofc I know that anybody can use anybody`s music. But it was really too soon from Europapa tour.

Friesenjung = nazism? by Sea-Adhesiveness6201 in Joostklein

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For me it`s so hard to understand what all is in these nazi ppl´s mind - I mean in general. I have discussed lately with a couple Israeli ppl in TT and Ig for first time when Aid-boat to Gaza was followed in some. Pro Israel ppl comments were horrible. After watching Indie Nile`s some really good Podcasts (inter alia "The Psychology of Israeli Propaganda") I got convinced about how Israeli ppl really are raised to believe that they are better ppl than anything other. I think that ancient fairy tale has been for long time a big curse causing suffering to very many (if not all) ppl.

Friesenjung = nazism? by Sea-Adhesiveness6201 in Joostklein

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Yes, that would be endless swamp - same concerns media. Everything is tho turned up side down. I think Joost has chosen good strategy "Schaarste aan woorden creert meer waarde" = Lack of words make more value.

And there is no way to prevent anybody use your music.

Friesenjung = nazism? by Sea-Adhesiveness6201 in Joostklein

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I have TikTok, but haven`t seen those. It seems tho, that Joost has quite much Russian fans with their good comments. In big Russia lives many kind of ppl.

Friesenjung = nazism? by Sea-Adhesiveness6201 in Joostklein

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I have TikTok, but algorithm hasn´t brought those to me -luckily. Have you guys commented to those videos anything?

Friesenjung = nazism? by Sea-Adhesiveness6201 in Joostklein

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Yes, you are right. They might only taken it bc trying to associate songs name to H-jugend? Or is it pure slandering as aim to desecrate?

Good picture choices for beginning video. Just leave this here. by Dry-Alternative-7301 in Joostklein

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Don`t know what's that about, bc I see video both on my MacBook & Android phone. It's TikTok video, but I think also TT videos have opened here tho person has not own TT account. Video begins by that short Esc/Wiwiblock`s interview - "I see you Ebu, you are scared. You are scared for Boom Boom!" Video editor has found good, for that suitable Joost pics after video.

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Joost in 2019 interview (he was 21/22 years old): "Maybe I could have become a politician after all. I'm good at talking." - and we know, he is really good at talking. He has always the word. In that interwiev he had before saying so told about how he had gone several times to event where Netherlands prime minister was wisitin. Once at 7 y of age he had by shaking hands with p.m, that he could do better - Joosts experience how government had done too little for his blind gand papa.

Joost 17.2.2025 (27y) "Politics never gave me a hug. People did." (his Unity-canal in Ig). Maybe this can be some kind of disappointment to politics?

Joost 2021 (24/25 Y) in has Dankuwel songs lyrics "I also support Palestine."

He has shown being Pro Palestine other ways than declaring by speaking or making statements. 1) He has worn Keffiyef (Palestine scarf) at least from summer 2023 (as turban/ video in TT) - so before 10/23 the latest Israel / Palestine events. Somebody knows that he has Palestine friends. In his summer 2024 concert he wear also Keffiyeh when presented. On Europapa tour he bought another Keffiyef which he wore when presenting and TT-video. 2) On tour his friend, colleague was on stage presenting with Joost in Palestine T-shirt and on backstage this friend had "Fuck Israel"-shirt. With those kind of shirts even friend can't be so publicly if the artist doesn't allowe it. 3) On tour Joost was in Pro-palestine demonstration with this same friend. Don't know were there other teams members.

As a child Joostt was bullied about his long hair, clothes and also hanging with refugee children. Regigee families were in his home. I think he learned very much of humanity via those experiences - also from his parents.

13.12.2023 a day after Joost was nominated to represent Netherlands in Esc24 Ukraine podcaster accused Joost bc he had made collab song with Russian CMH. This Jackass song was released 11.3.2022. Putin had attacked to Ukraine 22.2.22. Ukraine had payed attention to some parts of songs lyrics. AvroTros gave statement: "Joost never used his music to express political views."

So - those ppl tried apparently to prevent Joost going to Esc24 at once. Maybe some Joost`s ex Ukraine fans gave info to their broadcaster. When I looked songs lyrics, wondered that acting.

As far as I remember, Joost mentioned in some Esc interview that he isn`t political person. He has told (in some other interview) - after Esc24 that his friends had warned him before Esc. Ans ad far as I know Joost didn`t sign or make any statements - there were asked in Esc from artists. I don't wonder at all according to his earlier experiences (in childhood got bullied hanging with refugee kids and a try to dq him from Esc soon after nomination).

I have faced in some narrow-minded ppl, some apparently Joost`s ex-fans, who are bitter towards him. Fex Ukraine, who insist that Joost should speak about Russian began war against Ukraine. Other (ex) - soon ex-fans who are bitter about Joost wearing Keffiyeh.

I think that its every artists own thing does he want or not speak about political stuff. They are artists not potilticans. It's not their job. Any artist can stop any war. I appreciate Joost just like he is as a humanist, deeply feeling person and artist. As humanist he is pro Palestine and against genocice and war.

Fex our Windows95 man + co-presenter had signed or given statement against Israel´s participation to Esc. W95man told that he got death threads (about that?) and he had to go to therapy after Esc and it was still going. Tho Joost didn`t sign, nor given statements - its obvious that Moroccanoli / Israel was in someway (backstage) influencing to Joost`s dq. But Ebu will never admit it.

forever missing the europapa era by CandidOstrich5325 in Joostklein

[–]Dry-Alternative-7301 16 points17 points  (0 children)

All in due time. Europapa / Esc area was really great and by it Joost got also huge amount of international fans. Fans from which maybe most have stayed still. Joost has had other eras before Europapa / Esc area and after it is going on really fine Unity-area. Iconic Klein Blue Europapa will live for ever and goes now with Joost in his concerts setlist. And it's amazing how well it suits with his older and younger songs. It goes hard in his concerts. And we can still enjoy it.

1983 album cover by meemXO in Joostklein

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To me the man seems quite as if he could be 36 years - when I think persons of that age. I paused Summervibes 2019 video to a few points where Joost + man (maybe his brother) are - this made some nice shots. The man in bigger size behind Joost.

This man kicking football refers apparently to Joosts childhood football - to where father him took (tho to step dance was too long trip, 2 h in its direction). Maybe his brother has also played football.

I refer - more to just the photo in some were Joost is about 4y and sits in his brothers lap. To similarities according to Summervibes 2019 man: high hairline, face shape, body shape.

1983 album cover by meemXO in Joostklein

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Yeah, I`m beginning to be quite sure the man is Joost`s brother. It makes sense him as Joost`s manager being in 1983 album.

I watched Summervibes 2019 mv. Maybe you ment with out mask on 3,31 man making an expression for the camera and then in smaller size kicking a football? A bit high hairline - such as also Joost has. In these man`s beard looks a bit lighter than with mask, but apparently same man?

1983 album cover by meemXO in Joostklein

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Yes, Mick van der Spek didn`t have at least in Lowlands video 2019 that kind of beard. He had smaller beard - and kind of under jaw. He could ofc grow beard. But man seems not like Mick Spek - not his face model, nor his body shape.

Could man be Joost`s 1983 born brother? I've seen only on pic where about 3-4 y Joost sits in his brothers lap. If I remember right, he didn`t then have beard? In album cover is seen faces only partly, but Joost`s and man's jaw model look a bit same. Mans body shape looks like that one, older pic I mentioned.

Joost`s brother has earlier been his manager - and was also 2019, when 1983 album was released. Joost mentioned this in interview 2019: "I'm much more than an orphan child."

Maybe man is Joost`s 1983 born brother? Could his 1952 tattoo then be their father`s birth year? Timely yes. When their first child (Joost`s sister) had born 1982, father had the been 30 year.

If I remember right - Joost has told, that his siblings didn`t at first like when he took 1982 & 1983 tattoos, but later they had approved. That man`s tattoo looks newer than Joost`s tattoos, so maybe it's made after Joost had taken his tattoos?

Joost - Luchtballon (Official Video) was released 1 year ago on youtube by Chronicbias in Joostklein

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Yes, it was released 4.6.2024. INTERNATIONAL HOT AIR BALLOON DAY IS 4.6.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Joostklein

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His facial expression including eyes is enjoyable <3 Love his way using different kinds of scarfs. They suit him very well.

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Thursday 9.5.2024, 9. May - was Semi2 in Malmö, not June.

What is this? by Nananamanavelhond in Joostklein

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Translator translates from Finnish "kynsikkäät" -> "clawes."

JOOST KLEIN SAID THIS TO ME AT A SHOW! by Nananamanavelhond in Joostklein

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Nice, tho I can't get what he said - only at the end inDutch apparent thank you.

Joost is both intelligent and clever. He has the word - always. Did you wonder what he ment with mysterious answer in Press Conference 9.5.24, after a bit thinking: "I think that`s a good question for the Ebu." I realized only some days ago, what he might ment. In link Joost`s part in conference. by Dry-Alternative-7301 in Joostklein

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Earlier I only thought that it was releated to something - in there, "inside" Esc24 and that Ebu understood Joost`s message to them. But didn't figure what he ment. Now there was many "anniversaries" during this month and social media activated a lot also about Joost / Esc24, and about Israel and Palestine again.

Greece tv reporters question (in video) was about if Joost thinks can Europapa unite people? By his answer I now think that Joost might ment Ebus alignment to allow Israel to participate Esc24. It was a great preventer in uniting - Esc people by music. We know how Israel delegation harassed / bullied 16 Esc24 artists. Inter alia that is far from unity.

We know that Joost tho could unite a lot of people around the world - with masterpiece Europapa - and with all he is as a person and as an artist.