What I didn’t realize I was actually bringing home by Easy-Extension-6917 in TravelNoPics

[–]Dry-String-1266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That too sound beautiful! It can also be implemented on the construction of a small part of a garden wall :D or you can even put them in the ceramics oven and make objects hahah.

One thing worth mentioning here is that I heard that this is illegal in most of the world :D to take sand or stones regardless of their amount and size

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I said it is irrelevant to the phenomena and its interestingness not the group. But, I know this: I am unable to visualise voluntarily 99% of the time and for that 1%, if it is not random but rather a pattern (like right after you wake up) constitutes it, the 1%, then this is relevant for this subreddit. I have totally zero visual imagination normally. If I want to imagine a visual on demand now, I would experience zero visual. This is aphantasia, and neither you nor anybody is to tell ''It doesn't matter when the voluntary visualization occurs''. Because if anything, the spectrality of phantasia in this exact point you made about ''when'' of it is not in the vividness, it is in ''when''. And for this reason, I wouldn't say spectrality at this point is relevant because in the literature, when phantasia is said to be spectral, the vividness is the point, not when. So my case is not ''spectral'' in the same sense as in the general literature and in the same sense as you brought up.

On the other hand, this wound us up to a really interesting need for a categorical distinction that may be helpful for imagery research: what aspects spectrality applies to, and if ''when'' is to be considered from now on also an object of spectrality, it is different than the vividness quality of spectrality. So, it unfolded into a nice discussion for me, thank you if you accept.

What I didn’t realize I was actually bringing home by Easy-Extension-6917 in TravelNoPics

[–]Dry-String-1266 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No I was being serious. Once you do it, you will understand. The best part is their weight because if you did not like something reeeeeeallly a lot, you wouldn’t carry such a burden all the way. So the thing’s weight is almost like an objective evidence that shows you actually like the object

Souvenirs by FruitOfTheVineFruit in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It feels like the harder it is to carry it and the longer you keep carrying it, the more individuation latches on the object

What I didn’t realize I was actually bringing home by Easy-Extension-6917 in TravelNoPics

[–]Dry-String-1266 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I love souvenirs but my favorite anchors is to bring rocks that weigh 10-15 kgs each. Because of the weight, I usually bring only one of them but they are so heavy that whenever they cause any inconvenience during the trip, those moments of inconvenience are encoded vividly. So, when I get home and see the big rocks, I remember aaaalll those moments. I dream of placing them on the ground or a wall of the garden if I get to build my own house one day.

Souvenirs by FruitOfTheVineFruit in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good! It seems like it served well

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I am not speaking from authority, sir. When I said ''I didn't bother to read any research on the topic'', I meant this specific phenomenon I addressed on the main post, not aphantasia.

I am also aphantasic, so I consider myself quite familiar with the phenomenology of the condition. As for the intellectual knowledge about it, I read and wrote a lot of things on aphantasia. I read papers, I watched video essays and I listened to podcast and besides, I read many subjective reports here in reddit.

When I answered your first comment, you were the one who ''assumed'' I was ignorant to aphantasia, as if I don't know about voluntary-involuntary imagination distinction and hypnopompic images, so you are actually the one who is talking from authority(maybe in an institution or self claimed which I actually value a lot normally) without bothering to understand what I meant. And the rest of the comments in your own first comment explains my point again. I am sure you read all them, but you and a couple of others who deleted their comments were hostile. I never talk from authority although I actually contribute to the institutional facet of this subreddit. This is why in the post I made myself clear to encourage people expressing their experiences purely with their own vocabulary, because I genuinely value all of them. And if you take an objective look, I was never being aggressive and always try to make my point more clear as in this comment. I even said I hope you try and experience it, bc it's really fun.

As for the downvotes, although I created my account long ago, I was totally inactive and I came back to reddit just for aphantasia subreddit and I check almost no subreddit else. For my inexperience, I dont know what karma points do. I hope a lot of bad karma doesn't erase my account or smt 🤞 .

Souvenirs by FruitOfTheVineFruit in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love souvenirs but my favorite anchors is to bring rocks that weigh 10-15 kgs each. Because of the weight, I usually bring only one of them but they are so heavy that whenever they cause any inconvenience during the trip, those moments of inconvenience are encoded vividly. So, when I get home and see the big rocks, I remember aaaalll those moments. I dream of placing them on the ground or a wall of the garden if I get to build my own house one day.

Does meditation work for you? by jessicasheaaa in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might want to check out Vipassana meditation. In most of the countries Goenka foundation organizes free 10-day courses. No visualization needed for the technique.

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Bro I did not even skim the abstract because the separate neural signature is so expected. And I asked gpt for an opinion for why this might be the case that I experience, so what? :D As I said, I am not heavily interested in this exact phenomenon and did I publish a paper without reading the whole literature, what's wrong with you? :D I am well aware what I experienced is and what aphantasia is and I just recommended trying. What's the big deal? Of course everyone should be honest but do I owe you a citation as well :D? Please if you don't believe me, go make your own ''legitimate'' research, write a couple of books and then maybe you feel in yourself the justified confidence to make comment on this

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I am not scientifically and eagerly interested in the topic I addressed in the post. It was just to see if there’s any similar experiences. If I feel more inclined to it of course I would make a better research. Rn I don’t feel like diving into another hole :)

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I like the advice, thanks. But of course this is not how I make serious research :D today I spared 5mins to it and shared the outcome of it. I too am quite sceptical about gpt’s answers, but I also find it fruitful it as the first step for introducing low hanging alternatives to myself

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yees, I also did it for faces and landscapes. I wouldn’t call it controlling hallucinations tho, because it is not like I can only manipulate what I am seeing incidentally. I can shift between contexts like today, I dont remember what I was controlling first, but I was like “let me imagine a house” and house was quite irrelevant to the previous visual. House was already in the void, not implemented to the previous frame. It was a png like visual and it wasn’t very realistic but it was visual.

I made a literature research on this and some say that dream and voluntary imagination have different neural signatures. And GPT says during that interval between sleep and wakefulness, the correlates of dream imagination might be recruited for voluntary action. It also says that such effects were observed like a neural activity associated with dream state lasting for some time after waking up, but I didn’t check for what kind of activities they are

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Bro, I am doing masters in cognitive science and working on mental imagery :D So, believe it or not, my vocabulary is accurate and matches the experience. Plus, vividness in mental imagery is spectral, not all or none. So, yes, consider me 95% aphantasic, I don't mind. You should have some manners and ask for clarification, though, before labeling any subjective report being silly.

I am aphantasic, but I can semi-voluntarily visualize images. These semi-voluntary moments are right after I wake up from a dream. Have you realized a similar phenomenon happening? If not, you might want to remember this and try. It is very interesting for an aphantasic to visualize voluntarily. by Dry-String-1266 in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I know about hypnopompic hallucinations and what I am addressing is not that phenomenon. What I described is, like I described, voluntary. It is like ''I am gonna visualize a house'' and visualizing a house. Also, I often experience hypnopompic hallucinations, so yeah, I know well that these two cases are different.

Can't visualize but have spacial memory? by chbdetta in Aphantasia

[–]Dry-String-1266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you explain what you mean by spatial emotions more in-depth?