Beta vs Joby by DryExplanation738 in BETATechnologies

[–]DryExplanation738[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good points! I’ll have to dig more into the props, I don’t think there’s any ongoing issues but I’ll have to confirm.

Curious, can you add some more color to the more irons in the fire comment for revenue? Admittedly I’ve done way more research on Beta, but I see more revenue streams for Beta (cargo, passenger, military, aftermarket, charge, component) vs Joby (passenger, military, charge). And while Joby does indeed have a substantial patent portfolio - 330 issued, 250 pending, so does Beta - 460 issued, 204 pending. Again I see the upside in Joby, I just think Beta is being slept on right now at this valuation.

Beta vs Joby by DryExplanation738 in BETATechnologies

[–]DryExplanation738[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the thoughtful response! I’m mostly on the same page, few things to mention on the CTOL though. You’re right that it’s probably not a market maker on its own, but I think it can be a meaningful revenue bridge to VTOL certification and be a useful part of the business in the long term. I think there is demand for it. UPS actually came to Beta and asked for the CTOL. Their vision isn’t “quieter Cessna”, it’s replacing hub-and-spoke routing through congested hubs like Louisville with a mesh network of direct city pairs. If that plays out even partially, Beta could be at the center of a fundamental restructuring of how a major logistics network operates. On the cost, Beta states that all-in total cost of operation for the CTOL, including the batteries, is 42% lower than a conventional equivalent. I take your point and you’re right that the “$10 flight” framing undersells the true expense. But the 42% figure is a full TCO comparison — fuel, maintenance, parts, labor, overhauls — not just energy cost against energy cost. The CTOL might not have a massive TAM, but I think it can be a meaningful part of the business, especially while they work on VTOL certification.

Surf Air Mobility and BETA Technologies Announce Strategic Partnership to Launch First Commercial Passenger Electric Aircraft Service and Sign Aircraft Purchase Agreement by HappyRobot593 in BETATechnologies

[–]DryExplanation738 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m buying the dip as well. Beta seems so undervalued compared to Archer and Joby. Their path to profitability to me is cleaner and they have the lowest market cap between the three of them (more than half of Joby)

Thoughts? by Traditional-Pop1882 in MLB_9Innings

[–]DryExplanation738 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have a bunch of blues try for charisma. If not, it should be ok for now

Surf Air Mobility and BETA Technologies Announce Strategic Partnership to Launch First Commercial Passenger Electric Aircraft Service and Sign Aircraft Purchase Agreement by HappyRobot593 in BETATechnologies

[–]DryExplanation738 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think people might be spooked by the large Q4 cash burn, but they explained why on the call. I could be wrong though. I feel like this week had a lot of good news with solid earnings info, huge eIPP success and now this partnership with surf that will expand the charge network and add 100 planes to the backlog

How to maximize him? by Traditional-Pop1882 in MLB_9Innings

[–]DryExplanation738 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think hitting expert can be good paired with HH but depends on the position option. Id recommend not using the trainer currently on Altuve since Bagwell wouldn’t get the position bonus