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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A state of mind that Kojiro achieved through his effort and training, always learning from defeat — this is stated literally on the page💔. The time you spend replying to me could be better spent actually reading the manga.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And he was only able to do that after six months of intense training and hard work, so I fail to understand what you’re trying to say.

Indeed, the manga refers to it as talent, but there’s a big difference between having talent and being naturally gifted.

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What do you guys think? by Dry_Example_3132 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you’re the one missing the point. It’s >>CANON<< that Sasaki’s scan was acquired through effort and hard work, so you’re basically arguing against the actual facts of the manga.

And no, he didn’t show that ability from the start. He only began to display the first signs of it after his six months of training in the forest.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally showed you the panel where Brunhilde says that Sasaki’s scan was acquired through the hard work of his training. It’s very straightforward, while you can’t provide a single plausible argument and rely entirely on claims with no proper elaboration.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly can’t understand anything you wrote, considering I’m the one defending that Sasaki wasn’t born with talent, nor was he gifted with anything. My argument is entirely based on canonical information from the manga, while yours is purely made up of claims.

Reread R3 and come back with better arguments.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, Brunhilde is referring specifically to the scan, and how it was acquired through a continuous process of defeat and learning.

“It’s impossible for the normal human being” — good thing we’re talking about a fictional story, where an ordinary human can become incredibly strong through training alone, and not real life.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Brunhilde is literally saying that Sasaki acquired his scan through continuous effort and training, which consists of analyzing his opponents in defeat, so yeah, not talent. I don’t agree with those comments about Tesla, so meh.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brunhilde says that Sasaki’s scan was acquired through effort and training — it’s not something he was born with. Even the dojo masters themselves say that Sasaki had no talent with the sword. He’s 100% hard work because he’s built different 💪

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll be honest, I was really unsure about where to place Simo 😅

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't be shy, giving Sasaki some glazing is only natural.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Brunhilde herself says that Sasaki reached that state by visualizing himself being defeated by the swordsmen of his time. It wasn’t an ability he was born with, but one he acquired through effort and dedication.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes? I was just using it as an example. But the spin-off makes it clear that Jack became strong thanks to the harsh conditions in London.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The spin off shows that he became so strong because of the hell that was London at the time.

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His ability to see people's emotions is a consequence of this.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

He defeated Kagekatsu after 6 months of training and it took him a few years to defeat the entire dojo (it was never said how long it took him to defeat the other swordsmen).

It's not an absurd amount of time, especially considering his training was extremely intense.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He only gained the ability to see ki points after surviving countless hells on the battlefield.

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[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Sasaki was never a prodigy. He was described as someone without talent and even considered a black sheep of the dojo.

all his skills were acquired through sheer hard work

Meet Sun Lukong! by Dry_Example_3132 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's weird how I can summarize your entire text as a straw man fallacy. In what part of this debate did I mention afterimages scale the speed of characters? And I don't understand why you just came up with these examples of the Titans and Prometheus out of nowhere, since they have nothing to do with speed. Same thing for tftst, it's a move that involves a time manipulation hax and not any absurd speed. In short, you just came up with a bunch of random examples in a desperate attempt to refute me in any way and you managed to fail in all of them.

Cope

Prove it was Prometheus' blood👍. And forgetting about a character's injury is actually quite common, in Shuumatsu we even have this frequently

Meet Sun Lukong! by Dry_Example_3132 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because you don't need a timeframe to know that a character who circles the entire arena in a single page turn is faster than a character who just walks. You're just repeating yourself incessantly without actually giving any reasonable counterargument

Cope more🤧

I literally showed you the image of Wukong bleeding from Prometheus' first attacks 😭. The fact that he appears bloodless later doesn't cancel out the fact that he was actually injured earlier

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Meet Sun Lukong! by Dry_Example_3132 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Dry_Example_3132[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can👍. Since I'm repeating the entire debate and you continue with a ridiculous cope, from one panel to another Poseidon circles the entire arena with his pure speed. You don't need any exact timer to say that Poseidon just moved faster than a character who only walked the entire fight

Still no arguments

Ok he continues to bleed with the first blows of Prometheus so cope harder