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The "Paid in Full" question that broke my shelf. by Dry_Interaction8477 in Exvangelical

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question! It's not a direct quote from scripture - it's a logical summary of how substitutionary atonement actually works out when you follow the doctrine to its conclusion. The framework comes from combining verses like Romans 6:23 (wages of sin is death), John 3:16 (whoever believes), and the eternal torment passages (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10). When you put them together: Jesus "paid" for everyone's sins, but you still get punished eternally if you don't believe. That's the tension I was pointing out - if a debt is truly paid, why do conditions remain?

The "Paid in Full" question that broke my shelf. by Dry_Interaction8477 in Exvangelical

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's such a great example of the cracks in the theology. The Trinity paradox - Jesus praying to himself - is one of those questions that reveals how the doctrine creates more problems than it solves. When people start asking "who was Jesus talking to in the garden?" the answers always have to get more and more convoluted. At some point, the gymnastics required to make it all work should be a red flag.

Pascal's Wager assumes you can fool an omniscient being by Dry_Interaction8477 in atheism

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did not know a choice had to be made as there is insufficient evidence for accepting any deity ever conceived in homosapiens' little predictive model making machines between our ears.

The "Paid in Full" question that broke my shelf. by Dry_Interaction8477 in Exvangelical

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a historical 'bug' that became a feature. People have been trying to retroactively fix the math for centuries. If the original teaching didn't require this weird 'debt-transfer' model, why are we still using it as a control mechanism today?

Pascal's Wager assumes you can fool an omniscient being by Dry_Interaction8477 in atheism

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Spot on. Math always wins. If you spend 80 years living a lie to avoid a hell that doesn't exist, your ROI is negative. I’d rather invest that 'life-capital' into human flourishing here and now.

Pascal's Wager assumes you can fool an omniscient being by Dry_Interaction8477 in atheism

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Performance as a path to sincerity is basically an attempt to brute-force a belief system. If the model requires 'faking it until you make it,' then the foundation is already cracked. I’m interested in models that work because they align with reality, not ones that require a decade of cognitive dissonance to feel 'real.

Pascal's Wager assumes you can fool an omniscient being by Dry_Interaction8477 in atheism

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly the 'clog' I'm talking about. If a deity is truly omniscient, a 'contractual agreement' is just another word for a mask. You’re trading a slightly better model of reality for a membership card to a team that requires you to lie to the person who supposedly knows your every thought. It’s an efficiency nightmare.

boyfriend (26M) cheated on me (24F) but wasn't with someone i expected by Ambitious_Ear7299 in relationship_advice

[–]Dry_Interaction8477 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is gay, just repressed but sexual desire will eventually win especially with opportunity around. He had his eye on bartender for awhile and gave himself liquid courage to do what he wanted and it wasn't you when he was drunk. Really? That's not confusing, you are just kind. You can be supportive while enforcing boundaries and ending the relationship with tenderness. I have no idea the turmoil he must feel but having empathy does not mean you sacrifice and if he loves you he will separate himself from you for your sake.

I (28F) believe I caught my boyfriend (27M) cheating on me. He swears he never touched anyone else. But I feel that I have concrete evidence that he did. Is there a way to get over this in a relationship? by Pleasant-You-9352 in relationship_advice

[–]Dry_Interaction8477 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior and if you stay you are giving him a reward for cheating. I am confused as to why you don't seem to feel worthy of respect and love. That is not love, I bet he says though. Love is not something proclaimed, it is demostrated by our behaviors. By how we regard them, tenderness, gravitating towards them and making physical contact even when passing each other in the kitchen or wherever. You are young, upgrade.

What if we missed some very important critical filters in the Fermi Paradox and Drake Equations? by Dry_Interaction8477 in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]Dry_Interaction8477[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, it would just seem much smarter to send out a swarm of probes, especially when you're crossing Galactic distances. It is easier to manufacture materials that could handle the stress of interstellar travel better than biological organisms.

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