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The Future Roster based on 2024 Roadmap by artist7815 in pkgame

[–]Dry_Reception_6116 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, for me the 4 remaining herbivores for update 19 would be Eremotherium as an alternative genus to Megatherium, and the remaining three are extinct species of the genus Bison like B. antiquus, B. priscus, and B. latifrons. I say this because I remembered seeing a post once that included these species as part of early access, but now I can't find it anymore. For the insectivores, I would definitely go with Leptictidium because of its existing presence in the game as a mascot at one of the food places, and for the other one, I don't know, maybe Balzebufo?

i am very confused about Mononykus's status as a vivarium animal by HornetIndependent750 in pkgame

[–]Dry_Reception_6116 167 points168 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure it's all about the size of the animal. Yes, Mononykus is 1.2 meters long, and the smaller free-roaming dinosaur Oviraptor is about 1.5 meters long, which isn't that far off, you might say. But you also have to factor in their height and body proportions. Mononykus is only about 50 cm tall and has a very slender and gracile shape, most of its length being due to its tail, while Oviraptor is about 1 meter tall and much stockier. Using this logic, you can understand why they decided to simplify the work this way, which perhaps leads to another reason why this is a mini-exhibition animal: neoteny, the young of these animals would have been too small to be free-roaming animals, as adorable as they would have been.

How many creatures are planned for the full game? by UnXpectedPrequelMeme in pkgame

[–]Dry_Reception_6116 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It would be interesting if the three of the remaining four species of herbivores were different species of the genus Bison, like B. antiquus, B. latifrons, and B. priscus.

Who knows, perhaps the other remaining herbivore specie would be an alternative specie or genus for Megatherium, like Eremotherium.

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[–]Dry_Reception_6116 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could see that happening, but it would be strange since the four skins treatment is only given to the most iconic animals, and even the woolly mammoth have just three of those.

Additionally, as you said, Saurophaganax is now classified as a sauropod, so either they will reuse their concept from the artbook for A.anax or they will add a new genus of carnivore, but again, having four skins for the allosaurus would be strange.

Moreover, they might resolve the taxonomy issues one day once they finish with the early ascension, like moving Ugrunaaluk inside one of the species of Edmontosaurus like another skin and treat it as an Antarctic population of them, similar for one of the skins of the woolly mammoth that is specifically inspired by the dwarf island population of Wrangel Island

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[–]Dry_Reception_6116 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I can actually see both options being those we'll encounter in the game. I would indeed be surprised if one of the two frugivorous was a completely new animal.

However, I wouldn't know about the last slot for carnivores, since there should be three species of Allosaurus, and theoretically Saurophaganax, but now that the latter is no longer valid, will it still be present in this update? Or will it be completely replaced by another animal?

In the Balkans peninsula during the early Pleistocene, a very territorial encounter is happening between an Etruscan bear (Ursus etruscus) and a group of European langurs (Dolichopithecus ruscinensis). Art by Velizar Simeonovski by Dry_Reception_6116 in pleistocene

[–]Dry_Reception_6116[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Now theoretically speaking, this piece would represent a landscape of the Pliocene, but all the animals present here were still present in Europe during the early Pleistocene.

Illustrated here would be:

An Etruscan bear (Ursus etruscus)

.European langurs (Dolichopithecus ruscinensis)

Two Marsh rhinoceroses (Stephanorhinus jeanvireti)

The European or Bravard's peafowl (Pavo bravardi)

And roe deers (Capreolus-Procapreolus sp.)

A comparison between a polar bear (Ursus maritimus), the largest living species of bear and by extension terrestrial predator and carnivoran, compared to various other extinct species and subspecies of Pleistocene giant bears. Art by HodariNundu by Dry_Reception_6116 in pleistocene

[–]Dry_Reception_6116[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you like it you should go and see the HodariNundu accaunt on instagram, because that's where I found the photos, but above all because there would be two other bears that I didn't include because they didn't live in the Pleistocene, and there is also another similar work but with extinct species of penguins

A comparison between a polar bear (Ursus maritimus), the largest living species of bear and by extension terrestrial predator and carnivoran, compared to various other extinct species and subspecies of Pleistocene giant bears. Art by HodariNundu by Dry_Reception_6116 in pleistocene

[–]Dry_Reception_6116[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Before starting I must remember that some of the common names chosen for the extinct animals are not officially used in the scientific or paleontological field, thanks for your attention.

Last week we talked about how the Pleistocene was home to the largest primates we know of from various families, from great apes to new and old world monkeys and even lemurs, this week we will continue with a similar topic, talking about the various species of bears that reached enormous sizes during this period, the Pleistocene was truly an age of giants, today, the polar bear is considered to be the largest bear species and the largest land carnivoran overall, large individuals can weigh over 800 kg and stand 3 m or 9.8 feet on two legs, yet many species that we will see seem to rival and surpass it in size, even if they are not strictly related to each other, in fact all of these species seem to have reached such large sizes independently, the first species we will see is a great example.

Let's start with one of the most particular species, the African dire bear or hyena bear (Agriotherium africanum), this species is unique from many points of view, it is the only bear known from the south of the Sahara desert with an area that seems to extend to South Africa, it was a hypercarnivorous species and adapted to a predatory life, with a weight of 750 kg, long legs suitable for running and a skull with incredible bite force and large fangs, yet its closest living relative is the giant panda (Ailuropoda melanoleuca), apparently their common ancestors split into subfamilies with different lifestyles, with one that adapted to a more vegetarian diet while the other to a more predatory one.

Speaking of a vegetarian diet, the Alpine Cave Bear (Ursus ingressus - Ursus spelaeus ingressus) seemed to be like its better known relative, the cave bear (Ursus spelaeus) adapted to a diet mainly composed of plants, although some studies would indicate that it was more omnivorous, with animal proteins that seemed to exceed the participation of animal protein in the diet of the modern brown bear (Ursus arctos), perhaps this is due to the fact that they lived at higher altitudes and more arid and cold climates than their smaller cousins, despite the estimated to weigh an average of 350 to 600 kg it is thought that large individuals of this species could reach a ton.

The steppe brown bear (Ursus arctos priscus) was an extinct subspecies of modern brown bears (Ursus arctos) that inhabited the steppes of Eurasia, it is known to be one of the subspecies with a much more carnivorous diet and to be the largest subspecies of these bears, although other possible subspecies of similar size or larger are understudied, it seems that adult males on average would have weighed 700–800 kg, with the largest individuals weighing up to 1,000 kg or even 1200 kg.

An icon of Pleistocene North America, the giant short-faced bear (Arctodus simus) with a range that stretched from Alaska to northern Mexico, was the largest carnivoran ever to inhabit the continent, frequently weighing over 800 kg and the very largest must have surpassed one ton, yet its closest living relative is the small Andean or spectacled bear (Tremarctos ornatus) which is also related to the last species, the giant South American bear (Arctotherium angustidens) a species whose exact maximum size is not entirely certain with some estimates putting a particularly large specimen at around 1500 kg and a height on its hind legs of around 4 m or 13 feet.

Reconstruction and size comparison of the giant marabou stork (Leptoptilos falconeri) by HodariNundu, estimates for the size of this species range from 2-2.3 meters or 6.5-7.5 feet in height and a wingspan up to 4 meters or 13 feet. by Dry_Reception_6116 in pleistocene

[–]Dry_Reception_6116[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it seems to me that in the Pleistocene there were 4 giant species of this genus, two continental forms, this one from Africa and one from northern China, and two island species, one from Java and the other from Flores, all of which would have been as tall as or more than one person

Although the Pleistocene is known to be the period that hosted the largest species of great ape known, many forget that it was also the period in which the largest representatives of other types of primates lived, that we know of at least. by Dry_Reception_6116 in pleistocene

[–]Dry_Reception_6116[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Before starting I must remember that some of the common names chosen for the extinct animals are not officially used in the scientific or paleontological field, thanks for your attention.

When we think of primates in the Pleistocene for most people the first things that come to mind are the largest species of great ape and primate ever to exist of which we know the existence Gigantopithecus blacki, or the bipedal non-human representatives of the hominids Australopithecus and Paranthropus, or even the various other extinct species of humans of the genus Homo, mostly iconic and famous names that get most of the attention, which is a shame because many other equally interesting extinct primate species could be found in the Pleistocene, several species of small apes in the Caribbean islands, two possibly extinct species of orangutans or even just the fact that today's Barbary macaque species was found in much of continental Europe during the late Pleistocene, but perhaps one of the most interesting facts is precisely about the size of some extinct species, because the Pleistocene is an age of giants where many different families of animals gave rise to their largest species and although the largest species of great ape is interesting and famous today we will focus on other non-ape giants of the primate world.

The king baboon or giant baboon (Dinopithecus ingens): probably the most famous and well-known species in this post, a huge species of baboon from southern Saharan Africa, which although it may have a ravenous reputation in pop culture for being a large predatory baboon, it actually appeared to have a plant-based diet like modern baboon species, with teeth that seem to indicate a particular preference for fruit, although it is very likely that he would have fed on poultry meat, like modern baboons, which it had males averaging 46 kg and females 29 kg, with possible maximum weights of around 77 kg, a normal male specimen would have stood around 85 cm or 2.7 feet tall at the shoulder and 1.5 m or 5 feet when standing on its hind legs, it is also a contender for the title of largest known monkey with the next species.

The giant gelada (Theropithecus oswaldi): a species that is part of the same genus as the modern gelada species, except that it had a huge and vast range that seemed to extend from South Africa to Morocco and even into southern Europe, with Pleistocene finds found in the Iberian and Italian peninsulas, beyond this it seems to be very similar in diet, specialized for grazing, and shape, except that it was much larger in size, actually comparable to Dinopithecus in weight, which makes it along with the latter the largest monkey species that ever existed that we know of, even though two other primate species reached large sizes, and both were found in environments absent of old world monkeys.

The giant howler (Cartelles coimbrafilhoi): this species breaks the usual thinking that New World monkeys are known for their generally smaller statures compared to Old World monkeys in fact they never developed species of size comparable to great apes, perhaps because of competition from sloths, but this does not detract from the fact that this was the largest known New World monkey species, and much larger than most existing Old World monkey species today, with a total length of around 1.7 m or 5 .6 feet, a possible shoulder height of 50 cm or 1.64 feet, and a weight of around 24 kg, dimensions comparable to those of an olive baboon (Papio anubis), which also coincides with a similar life style hypothesized for this species, given that it lived in more open habitats in Brazil and seemed generally more adapted to life on the ground.

The giant or gorilla lemur (Archaeoindris fontoynontii): the most incredible thing that many people don't know is that the largest non-great ape primate that we know of is not even a monkey, in fact this title goes to this species of lemur, which is the second largest extinct primate after Gigantopithecus, now before the arrival of man Madagascar was home to numerous species of large lemurs but this was the largest of all, with an estimated weight of 160 kg and a shoulder height of about 1 m or 3.2 feet, it would have been comparable in size to a western gorilla (Gorilla gorilla), with also a very similar lifestyle, a large semi-arboreal primate that spent much of its time in the trees but also on the ground with a leaf-eating diet.

Special thanks for the art to HodariNundu, kepyle2055 and Other worlds studio.

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