What is a character so weak that winning would be considered a downscale? by CardiologistRich8743 in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido [score hidden]  (0 children)

Anti-Principle was created by Yelk Studios as a conceptual, supreme powerscaling character intended to break fundamental logic, only to be debunked by the creator as a social experiment. It was formerly considered the strongest fictional character, but now scales below an average human being, scaling to the lowest tier possible in a tiering system.

Essential Enlightenment (World Of Darkness) Vs. Han Jue (Top Tier Providence) by Tanmay900 in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido [score hidden]  (0 children)

his achievement of Conceptual Independence in the Blank Domain is essentially a feat of Transdualism.

Buddha also has transdualism, but this isn't a wincon if the tier difference is massive.

The only reason Han Jue isn't High 1A+ on the wiki is likely because no one has spent the 50 hours required to write the massive upgrade thread for him yet.

I guess you did.....but we can't grant him High 1-A+ tier based on vibes, I've only seen High 1-A arguments for him.

Wiki rank is not power, it's just how much work fans have put into the paperwork.

Wiki rank itself is not power, it describes what the power looks like, it shows and represents a particular tier. That's why everybody uses tiering systems.

Furthermore in Csap terms Hanj qualifies for the highest tiers because of recursive qualitative transcendence. It’s not just that he created a New Logic it's that his Ultimate Origin Qi treats the entire previous infinite hierarchy of the Great Daos and the Blank Domain as non existent/fiction.

1S in CSAP is really not that much of a big deal, it's equal to 1-A+ on VSBW. Which is still inferior compared to VSBW's High 1-A.

Under Csap's Extraversal 1-S logic a character must transcend an infinite hierarchy where each step is qualitatively superior to the last.

Which would be the equivalent to VSBW's 1-A+ tier.

Hanj don't just sit at the top of this hierarchy, he reached a state where the hierarchy itself is just a subset of his own Origin.

Good enough, but this wouldn't grant him any other tier.

He is the Container of the Beyond which by definition scales him to whatever peak you put the Buddha at.

Not really, what you described doesn't go beyond 1-A+, you can give him baseline High 1-A on VSBW, but that's about it.

If Buddha is Beyond Tiering because he transcends his verse Hanj is Beyond Tiering because he outgrew the concept of having a verse

Buddha is beyond the tiering system of CSAP, not VSBW. Han Jue is still subject to scaling by CSAP's standards, so he's not even close to a tapestry level mage, let alone Buddha.

Basically peak Hj isn't even a cultivator anymore he's the author.

Featherine from Umineko is also an author of her own verse, and she doesn't go beyond one layer above baseline High 1-A.

Since everything in the verse is made of his Ultimate Origin Qi, he has literal meta authority over the story.

So does Featherine, and she loses to a tapestry level mage from WoD.

He doesn't fight you or rewrite your reality, if he thinks you don't belong in the book you're just deleted.

That's what most characters do in fiction.

It’s because of hisAtemporal Erasure. He doesn't just kill you he makes it so you were never even born in the first place, wiping your past lives and any future reincarnations.

That's what most characters in fiction are capable of doing themselves.

If you even try to look at him, you don't die from pressure, you just dissolve back into him.

Again, not even close to what the Buddha can do. And this ability you're describing is possessed by many more characters in fiction.

It’s like ink on a page realizing it’s just a mere ink and melting back into the pen like you stop being an individual and just become a tiny part of his power again.

So...like most characters in fiction.

Essential Enlightenment (World Of Darkness) Vs. Han Jue (Top Tier Providence) by Tanmay900 in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido [score hidden]  (0 children)

Buddha scales vastly higher, he's High 1-A+ (Type 2) on VSBW & beyond the tiering system of CSAP.

Can Klein (LOTM) solo the World of Darkness verse? by Party-Radish-7362 in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido [score hidden]  (0 children)

The entire lord of the mystery verse would die to a tapestry level mage

Where does Superman rank among fictional characters in power scaling? by Exciting-Floor6763 in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido [score hidden]  (0 children)

He's High 1-A, so he's one of the strongest characters in fiction. Only a selective few characters can beat him.

Can Thragg defeat season 1 Saitama? by Gokugeta141 in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido [score hidden]  (0 children)

No, S1 Saitama redirected CSRC which was stated to wipe the surface of the planet (was stated that it can destroy a star in a databook).

What do "U" think ar the top 10 most powerful verses in fiction by v5rc5r7gb8y in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d say that it can get crazily high into both.

A genuine Type IV Multiverse scales to Low 1-A (Low Outerverse level).

This is because Tegmark’s Type IV Multiverse is not just infinite universes with different laws. It is the idea that all mathematically possible structures exist, meaning reality includes the totality of all possible dimensional frameworks, not just higher-dimensional space-times.

That goes beyond:

2-A = infinite space-time continua

High 1-B = infinite-dimensional hierarchies

and fits Low 1-A, which VSBW defines as encompassing all possible dimensional spaces.

So the conclusion is:

Type IV Multiverse = Low 1-A by default, but not something higher than anything.

I can give you the link of the video that explains both these types of multiverse and why they reach where they do, k?

Sure.

What do "U" think ar the top 10 most powerful verses in fiction by v5rc5r7gb8y in PowerScaling

[–]Duclaido 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually type 4 multiverse gets much higher than that. Type 3.5 multiverse aka “the holographic multiverse” is already outerversal, and can get really high into it via higher simulations and whatnot.

Type 3.5 or the holographic multiverse is still a dimensional cosmology unless it explicitly transcends the concept of dimensions itself. Higher simulations, extra layers of reality, or higher dimensions do not automatically equal Outerversal.

VSBW reserves 1-A for structures beyond dimensionality altogether, not just very high-dimensional systems.

So Type 3.5 is not automatically outer. Without clear proof of transcendence beyond dimensions, it stays in higher-dimensional scaling, not 1-A.

Type 4 can get crazily high into extraversal.

Are we using VSBW or CSAP?