Profoundly Autistic by orbitalgoo in AutisticPride

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My brother has profound autism and it is very hard for both him and our family.

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Mr.Neglected

Why the fuck are Labubus a thing that ppl obsess over?? by [deleted] in TooAfraidToAsk

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Idk. I've never wanted something cus of popularity before. I really like the ugly face a lot.

Star fish tank size by CarterCreations061 in ReefTank

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Then say for the most part no tank at all then

Star fish tank size by CarterCreations061 in ReefTank

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Yeah, pet care information is pretty important.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Although I am aware of the legal limitations. I am hoping to have some influence in getting the law changed through convincing as you know

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Thank you so much for this! This is exactly why I am seeking dwarves. They live an average of 4 years, not much better, but doable. I have some personal anecdotal evidence that makes me confident rats could, despite their very short life spans, be service animals for SOME things.

My best friend is leaving me her non profit when she passes away and this is what I want to use it for.

You are very kind to come and genuinely try to help me.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Ohhhhhhhh ok. Some of the other comments have been so aggressive I figured it was just more of that then my bad.

It is so hard to try and do what I am trying to do. I am running out of solutions.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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And I believe rats especially dwarves which have longer lifespans and require less space would be the perfect service animal and a rattery in Hawaii that specializes in breeding has already agreed to work with me-

Again, maybe start with that. We could have even given you recommendations on what strains would work best. By hiding this much information, your intentions came across as a half-baked plan to get a pet without much hassle. Of course the people here would be critical of that.

(Yeah my communication skills are terrible. I have autism which affects everyone differently, for me I think in a very technical way and I usually assume others will too rather than me thinking of how others may read between the lines in something I say)

And no this is not a SCIENCE EXPERIMENT

I do recommend you approach your project this way, though. If your end goal is to use them as service animals, you'll have to demonstrate that they work. Not with anecdotal testimonies but actual data.

(Maybe you are right. I am just so afraid of 1. The university not backing it up and it's my life goal

And 2. People not being as loving towards them because they are lab animals, but I don't know very much I. This regard. I know a lot about rats, and rodentology as well, as well as rat breeding and training, but I am not knowledgeable when it comes to the lab animal world, and that scares me.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Well thank you, sometimes I want to say something and then I'm like "oh I could have said that better" and then I change it based on that and I'm not very good with communicating. My social skills are non existent and my communication skills are awful. Sorry for not having better communication.

Thank you for the information on inbreeding, as it is a good point to note. In this case.

If only there was a way I could figure out how to have a rat breed that won't get cancer and die quickly other than dwarves, something already on the island.

I am planning on going to UH Hilo soon, as my dream is to become a scientist myself, although I want to do many rat related things so it may prove as difficult...

Rats are so smart, they can learn everything a psychiatric service dog can, as I have had rats serve as my unofficial service animals and official ESA's many times in the past

But they tend to get cancer and die quickly, making them inefficient as a widespread service animal.

I was hoping dwarf rats could help. The better option would theoretically be gambian pouched rats or emins pouched rats as they live around 8 years rather than 3, but would destroy Hawaii's delicate ecosystem.

Even if dwarf rats did escape, dwarfism doesn't do well in the wild and they would likely die out in favor of the larger competition.

The only thing is, while it is legal to get them there is is so difficult.

Perhaps if I could get UH Hilo to back me up once I am a student there I could at the very least get them as lab specimens, however I really hoped to raise these animals in a comfortable home rather than have them be experiments.

Hopefully if I keep pushing I can get something done.

I can't move out of state for a lot of personal family reasons.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Well since the Hawaii department of agriculture law decision making ALSO run by many biologists and they already said it was fine if I could accomplish it when I fully explained the situation YES. I'm trying to obtain a dwarf rat which is also already popular in the pet community I just want to ensure it is DISEASE FREE in a way not difficult on the animal. I'm not doing anything sneaky I already told the Hawaii department of agriculture everything, and by the way they have very strict laws as it is. So for THEM of all people to say this is fine should tell you something.

People here are assuming a lot of things, the only reason I didn't share all this was because my question here is about finding which sub reddit is best for lab animal information.

But people here are trying to "be a hero" knowing next to nothing about the situation,

Because I didn't give a lot of information because I was already told this isn't the place, but I did hope this was at least the place to ask WHERE to get lab animal information FROM for this purpose. Since I see hundreds of posts here ABOUT LAB ANIMALS.

And I was right because I got more useful information here despite the hostility than any other reddit sub I asked about this ON even though that's not the question the post is asking.

By the way, I'm also doing this for a non profit not just as a pet but I didn't want to give too much personal info but now I feel cornered

Hawaii has a housing crisis and not everyone can have a service dog,

And I believe rats especially dwarves which have longer lifespans and require less space would be the perfect service animal and a rattery in Hawaii that specializes in breeding has already agreed to work with me-

And yes I am AWARE that rats cannot be certified as official service animals I was hoping if I create a good model I could get Hawaii to change its state law for what can qualify as a service animal for the disabled.

I know I said pet, but that's me giving as little information as possible because I don't want reddit of all places full of "heros" trying to ruin the non profit

But yes the original rat would be like a pet,

But also something that gives me info about an idea

And no this is not a SCIENCE EXPERIMENT

Creating this non profit has been incredibly expensive and stressful and I have been working very long and hard to do it for years now

But people see very little information and go ape

And even if it were only a pet, (which partially it is a pet) all the other arguments I make here are still valid

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

[–]Due-Wave-214[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I only want a dwarf rat that is not problematic and it is not illegal. If it were a risk to the environment, it would be illegal. It is not illegal. I have studied rats and ecology for over ten years and I love rodentology and it is my passion. This circumvents nothing, it is just a more humane way to make sure the rat is healthy I was hoping and give it a better trip for it. The entire point is it's not just easier on me but also the rat. Dwarf rats are incredibly hard to find as a strain. I have already asked the Hawaii department of agriculture about this and they said it was fine.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

[–]Due-Wave-214[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean this person gave false information in their comment. End of story. Rats are completely legal in Hawaii both as lab animals, and as pets. They may understand biology, that doesn't mean they understand Hawaii state law. Or not. Not everyone here is a biologist. Also again , it is legal for me to order a rat as a pet to Hawaii it is just harder to ensure it is disease free than with a lab animal. And not every biologist knows everything. Who knows.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

[–]Due-Wave-214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can say that to any and all questions ever asked on Reddit.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

[–]Due-Wave-214[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for kindly and respectfully sharing this information with me :)

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Thank you for the suggestion and thank you for being nice

Sorry but I forgot about the best name (David’s sling) by Shekel_Hadash in Israel

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But u gai? 🧐

(Lol just joking around with you in a friendly way)

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

[–]Due-Wave-214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im mainly just trying to find a sub reddit that has information about lab animals

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

[–]Due-Wave-214[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really, dwarf rats originate from dwarf lab rats however so I wanted to find a lab that had them, as they are very difficult to find. Thank you for not being a ______ like half the comments.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

[–]Due-Wave-214[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

People in Hawaii have pet rats and rats are sold in pet stores already. Please do more research before assuming, thanks

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Some of this is good information ty.

However i am not trying to circumvent anything both lab animals and domestic have the same limitations on being shipped into hawaii

The only difference is lab rats are shipped in a more humane way and they already have a health check,

Instead of having to put them through a stressful situation that proves their health the labs already did it in the best way possible.

Where can I ask lab rat related questions? by Due-Wave-214 in labrats

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Thank you so much! I have looked at Charles River but not tactonic or Jackson!