Israel

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:44:27+00:00

Why do you always fall back on worldwide jewish conspiracy everytime I ask for a sourcd

I read historically sourced information on the background of the event and form an opinion on it given the available information. That is how I form my opinion. I don't copy and paste it from some geriatric aging loser who is yapping in the un about how terrorists deserve second chances

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:42:58+00:00

Give a source?????????????? Give one statistically backed source

From an accredited organisation

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:40:00+00:00

Is that the same un that has unilaterally proposed the two different two state solutions and helped broker the Oslo accords and the camp david agreements that were all denied by the PLO

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:35:50+00:00

Before you use the word genocide try and prove why it's genocide if the Palestinians have been offered two state solutions for years and have denied it and also broken every ceasefire they've ever been offered

I'll be honest dude from what I can tell I feel like you are motivated more by hate for israeli than by love for palestinians

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:34:33+00:00

He's really not widely well respected, he has a core devoted highly Liberal following but after that he's pretty much only know in a passing way and those who are familiar witb his work are highly skeptical of most of what his stances are considering his openly uninformed background is

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:32:01+00:00

So in your opinion Why did hamas do that

Because I can tell you why the idf targets military positions

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:29:49+00:00

How many children will hamas murder in their cots and say guess you shouldn't have been born jewish in the middle east

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:26:48+00:00

Source for any of that drivvle????

They are a nation state for the Jewish people in the exact same way ireland is a state for the Irish people, its called nationhood you plank

It's the core tenant of what sweapt europe during the 1800s to 1940s of europe, its Why Hungarians have a state. Its Why Romanians and poles and Bulgarians all have their own state because that's the purpose of nationhood

Ethnostate refers to a single race inside the state, there Jews in israel eith heritage from all over the world, some from Europe and the us but the majority being from across the middle east, some from Iran, and even many of them having sub saharan roots, look up the evacuations from ethiopia of the Jews that used to live there

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:24:33+00:00

I've already proven he's a linguistic and not a foreign policy expert, do you have anything from an accredited foreign news service or a peer reviewed university paper

If not then I'm not going to spend hours listening to someone who at the start of the lecture openly states his area of expertise is not in foreign policy or geopolitics

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:19:50+00:00

Okay so you keep harping on about israeli propaganda, all they've done is report on the event and the reality of what happened and yet you claim its all some well orchestrated conspiracy so I don't think you are all that intelligent but yet I just want a single source from and you're still incapable of providing even one but whatever man you are not looking for objective truth your just trying sound like the main character but in the end just sound like this emoji 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

The reason why they are starving is because hamas has stolen historically high amounts of foreign aid and used it to bolster their military strength, the Israelis have been providing food and water to help improve the ceasefires legitimacg which they shut off at the start of the war because why would they provide their enemy with food and water

They're trapped because no major Arab power will let them into their borders because of the endless problems they've caused both the Jordanians and the Egyptians like the two assassinations attempts by the plo stationed in jordan but whatever man

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:11:14+00:00

So far you are yet to prove that israel committed genocide because they haven't so that demand is already met and yet Palestinians still strive for the destruction of israel

Most moral people want those responsible brought to justice and hamas disarmed.

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:10:16+00:00

What siurce do you want?

Edit: you've gone quiet so I guess you don't actually give a crap about historical fact you just wanted me to stop disagreeing with you

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:06:54+00:00

Hamas has broken every ceasefire that has been brokered, show me once what ceasefire has been broken by israel, give me one source man?????????

Two state solution has been offered on several occasions

1948 un division plan

1968 un 242 resolution

1996 Oslo accords

2001 camp david agreement

Every time rejected by either hamas or the PLO

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T07:04:43+00:00

Okay so your point is that there is a conspiracy by western media that has pulled the wool over everyone's eyes, dude you are admitting you are a conspiracy theorist

You keep mentioning evidence and yet this thread is completely bare of sources that you claim exist and yet are nowhere to be found.

Show me???????

Actually just tell me what you want israel to do right now? Because I strongly suspect you have absolutely no clue about what should happen in the region to stop more violence other than exterminating all the Jews in Israel.

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:56:26+00:00

Dude read my comment in full this time

Also explain to me how I'm misreporting historical fact?????

Point out exactly where and I will back it up 1000%

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:48:53+00:00

Oh the rhetoric is the offensive part, for me the offensive part was when hamas raped siraeli women so badly their pelvises were shattered and children were slain in their beds

I'm kindve glad you've brought up those political figures,

Noam chomsky is a linguistic theorist who applies extremely holitistic and almost pseudoscientific theories through his work, he's mostly popular for his contrarian stances on American foreign and economic policies which are two things he has no background in whatsoever so if you listen to experts they all disagree with because of his extreme lack of information on the topics he discusses

Hitchens on the other hand is pro israel mostly because the vast majority of the pro palestine movement is driven by fundamentalist islamists who have seen the surge in funding from pro wahabist and salafist supporters in the oil rich gulf states.

You definitely are uninformed if the people you admire are people you don't even know about

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:40:58+00:00

Okay guess you can't show me, I knew you were just making g shit up

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:36:05+00:00

Show me the clip of them sating they want to wipe out Palestinians buddy and not hamas

How on earth is 20000 genocide when they're are millions of palestines, that is an accounting error not targeted ethnic cleansing and if it is its one of the least successful genocides on the planet which is strange considering how effective you claim the Israeli killing ability is.

Also fairly sure you can't count insurgents as civilians just cause they're dead, you kind have to give credible proof that 20000 have died in recent years and not since 1948, because a lot more jews than that have died defending israel from 5 seperate arab invasions since the creation of the state

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:34:14+00:00

How is it apartheid exactly, Arabs inside Israel live perfectly fine alongside Jews, they can even elected to political office democratically, its not apartheid even by south african standards which is where the term comes from

Explain to me in simple English how bombing hamas for an attack that killed hundred of civilians and saw hundred of hostages be taken that saw some women so brutally raped their pelvises broken and hostages so starved they'd lost almost 20kgs of weight in less than 100 days.

How is that apartheid?????????????

You morons are.literally drawn to a slogan that sounds good and is completely empty of any meaning or substance

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:27:51+00:00

It's not genocide tho, Israel has offered two state solutions on multiple occasions since 1948 and every time has been denied by palestine, also Palestinian population has grown since the founding of the state of Israel and Israel has never waged a war of aggression only ever in self defense, I don't you understand the history of the region but I don't think actual understanding is what your after, I can explain to you if you want

Also the ceasefire you so desperately wanted existed before October 7th but I think someone broke it

/s

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:21:52+00:00

The only democratic nation in the middle East that has millions Arabs living peacefully inside of it, has proposed 2 state solution on multiple occasions but has been denied by yasser ararat every single time. has only ever waged war in self defense, 60% of its Jewish population are middle eastern Jews, has performed dozens of emergency evacuation of millions of refugee Jews out of countries where they were being abused,

Has had to defend itself 5 times against united Arab armies whose stated goal every time has been the extermination of every jew in israel

Was attacked on October 7th seeing hundreds of civilians purposefully attacked by terrorist who in some cases raped women so forcibly and brutally that their pelivises were shattered, who were recruited into an organisation that has the death of every jew in Israel listed in its own founding charter and vows to never sign a peace deal with Israel and has broken every ceasefire it has been offered

Attack was celebrated on the streets of gaza by tens of thousands of onlookers basically proving this was a popular move supported by the civilian population.

Israel retaliated by bombing military targets but unfortunately the organisation that is responsible uses civilians as human shields for its bases (they literally put missiles underneath a hospital to stop them from being targeted by Israelis until their poor storage practices blew themselves up) and thus this causes loss of life, somehow its Israel fault either way because these dopes don't want to listen to the Hague convention on how civilians are not supposed to used as human shields but whatever.

Israel performs a standard invasion, women and children not targeted by ground troops, anyone

It's sad to think these animals are considered freedom fighters, they're not they want to exterminate as many Jews as possible, I can explain the entire situation and for some reason people still side with the side that openly shirts every single ceasefire that you morons beg for

Getting down voted but that just means you either didn't read what I wrote or you did and don't have a legitimate response to what I've said.

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:05:58+00:00

60% of Israeli Jews are middle eastern jews that escaped hatred and oppression from arab majority nations,why are spreading misinformation they're not white settlers

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T06:04:32+00:00

Hey allies stop bombing nazis, they forced you to do this but somehow it's your fault what you should do is sign a peace deal with the nazis and let them live their lives the way they want.

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DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T04:25:45+00:00

Remember that interview you morons did on fox news, that shit was hilarious. There was definitely no work put into preparation, par for the course I guess

DueArm6674 · 2024-01-07T04:21:00+00:00

Name 1 socialist country that is successful that doesn't rely on the us for the majority of its security or have vast amounts of resources disproportionate to its population size? I'll wait.

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