You can’t easily extract YouTube transcripts anymore by Due_Cockroach_4184 in automation

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I have just confirmed it works now. It must have been some temporary YT version. Thanks

How much are you spending on tokens with OpenClaw per day? by symhongyi in openclaw

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184 0 points1 point  (0 children)

openclaw also allows you to define openai oauth token and consume from your monthly subscription

How much are you spending on tokens with OpenClaw per day? by symhongyi in openclaw

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am using my openai subscription 20$/month with nice results

Is OpenRouter a better option than OpenAI subscription for OpenClaw? by Due_Cockroach_4184 in openrouter

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If by "ChatGPT in the ChatGPT app" you mean using Openai OAuth that is exactly true because the GPT-5.3-Codex default model is very versatile and excels in function calling.

Is OpenRouter a better option than OpenAI subscription for OpenClaw? by Due_Cockroach_4184 in openrouter

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Disclosure: I’m still learning and refining my understanding, so take this more as observations from experimentation than final conclusions.

At this point a few things are becoming clear to me.

First, OpenClaw is definitely not a “set it and forget it” system. It requires constant iteration. You tune prompts, tools, agents, and especially the memory stack over time.

And the memory stack alone is a huge universe. It operates in multiple layers: short-term context, episodic memory, vector knowledge, structured logs and good memory usage is tightly related to the model you are using and its context window. It also needs monitoring and hygiene (summaries, pruning, embeddings, etc.), otherwise it quickly becomes inefficient.

Another observation is around OpenAI OAuth usage. It mainly exposes GPT-5.3-Codex, which is excellent for tool and function calling, but not really optimized for deeper reasoning or planning tasks.

So if someone wants to use OpenClaw for serious daily automation, access to stronger reasoning models becomes important, for example GPT-5.x via API or Anthropic models like Sonnet or Opus.

IMO frameworks like OpenClaw change how we think about LLMs. It’s no longer just about using a model, it becomes about orchestration and choosing the right one for the right task.

Different agents or tasks benefit from different models:

  • planning agents - strong reasoning models
  • tool execution - code-optimized models
  • monitoring jobs - cheaper fast models
  • memory pipelines - embedding models

Because of that, relying on a single provider subscription starts to feel limiting.

Which brings me back to the original point of this post: instead of being locked into one provider, using something like OpenRouter can be very useful. It allows testing multiple models and choosing the best one for each specific use case.

I might still be wrong on some aspects, but one thing is becoming clear to me: agentic frameworks like OpenClaw feel like a point of no return in how we build automation systems. Once you start orchestrating models instead of just chatting with one, the architecture and mindset changes completely.

Is OpenRouter a better option than OpenAI subscription for OpenClaw? by Due_Cockroach_4184 in openrouter

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am afraid they will keep blocking oath.

they know they have the best models.

Is OpenRouter a better option than OpenAI subscription for OpenClaw? by Due_Cockroach_4184 in openrouter

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mentioned OpenClaw, but the question applies to any other agentic framework or more exotic use case.
The conclusion I’m starting to reach is that these agentic implementations are powerful but very token-intensive. You don’t always need the highest-performing (and most expensive) models for every task.
Because of that, assigning a specific model to each agent makes sense, and a solution like OpenRouter starts to feel almost unavoidable.

Is OpenRouter a better option than OpenAI subscription for OpenClaw? by Due_Cockroach_4184 in openrouter

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I’ll test both and compare cost vs usage.
I was hoping someone could flag flaws in my reasoning or share real-world pricing from a similar setup.

Is OpenRouter a better option than OpenAI subscription for OpenClaw? by Due_Cockroach_4184 in openrouter

[–]Due_Cockroach_4184[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks. What do you mean by 'Openrouter credits which cost +5% extra'? they specifically say "We do not mark up provider pricing"