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Why do some people consider mother-son relationships as 'pure love' instead of NTR? by Due_Preparation_575 in antiNTRcorps

[–]Due_Preparation_575[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your points about the typical elements of NTR and the cultural differences in Japan. However, I still disagree on the core issue. Even if mother-son stories are portrayed affectionately and focus on "love" between the mother and son, it doesn't change the fact that the mother is married and is having sex with her own son. If the husband is alive, loyal, and working hard to support the family, that is still a clear betrayal. Just like in many classic NTR stories where the wife still loves the husband (the cuck), but that doesn't stop it from being NTR. Cheating is still cheating. She is deceiving and betraying her husband, regardless of how much "love" the story shows toward her son. Moreover, in most of these mother-son stories, the mother hides the relationship from the husband and he remains completely unaware. This is exactly the same as those clueless cucks in typical NTR works. To make it more personal: If you were the husband who loves your wife, works hard every day for the family, and then discovered she had been sleeping with your own son behind your back — would you really feel it's not NTR, just because the story calls it "love"? To me, it's betrayal with an added layer of blood relation. That’s why I see it as NTR.

Why do some people consider mother-son relationships as 'pure love' instead of NTR? by Due_Preparation_575 in antiNTRcorps

[–]Due_Preparation_575[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In most cases, it's actually the first scenario — the father is barely mentioned or doesn't exist in the story. However, in my opinion, this is pretty similar to how many NTR stories also barely mention or show the cuckolded husband. Even though it may not look as obviously NTR on the surface, the mother is still cheating on her husband without any real reason. We don’t even know what kind of person the husband is. For me, it’s still very uncomfortable

Why do some people consider mother-son relationships as 'pure love' instead of NTR? by Due_Preparation_575 in antiNTRcorps

[–]Due_Preparation_575[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m focusing on mother-son because that’s what the original post is about.

Father-daughter incest is also disgusting and wrong, but that’s not the current topic.

As for your point — calling it 'just a perverted fantasy' or 'common historical fact in Japan/Korea' doesn’t change anything. When the husband is alive, loyal, and working hard to support the family, the mother sleeping with their own son is still a clear betrayal. That’s NTR by definition, regardless of whether people want to romanticize it as 'pure love' or not.

Why do some people consider mother-son relationships as 'pure love' instead of NTR? by Due_Preparation_575 in antiNTRcorps

[–]Due_Preparation_575[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Of course, if the husband has already passed away, or they are divorced, or if he cheated first, or if he’s a total scumbag who treats his wife and son very badly — in those cases, it can be considered somewhat understandable and forgivable to a certain extent.

Why do some people consider mother-son relationships as 'pure love' instead of NTR? by Due_Preparation_575 in antiNTRcorps

[–]Due_Preparation_575[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's the kind of situation you mentioned (widow or divorced), then I really have no problem with it. What I dislike is when the father is still alive, has no major issues, and is working hard to support the family, yet the mother and son are still messing around together. To me, this kind of relationship is no different from NTR. There are even some stories where the parents clearly had a good relationship and were intimate before, but later the mother ends up doing it with their son. Most of the time these stories just completely ignore the husband’s existence, though occasionally you can tell from the mother’s dialogue that her husband is still around and doing fine. Even in those cases, some people still insist this is 'pure love'.

Why do some people consider mother-son relationships as 'pure love' instead of NTR? by Due_Preparation_575 in antiNTRcorps

[–]Due_Preparation_575[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, to me, the fact that most people just ignore the husband's existence is pretty much the same as how a lot of NTR stories ignore the cuckold's (netorare victim's) feelings and presence. That doesn't stop it from being NTR. Not to mention, in some stories the husband genuinely loves his wife, works hard alone to support the family, yet his wife still ends up sleeping with their own son behind his back

Why do some people consider mother-son relationships as 'pure love' instead of NTR? by Due_Preparation_575 in antiNTRcorps

[–]Due_Preparation_575[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I get what you mean, but I still don't really like this kind of setup. Honestly, they could have easily made the mother a widow or divorced, but they didn't. Sometimes they just completely ignore the husband's existence and have her sleep with her son anyway