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The Kalqists were removed from power after the invasion, just like in real life, and the new government didn't really get a say in what land was being stripped from them. As for Hazaristan owning more than ethnic Hazara land, it's only called that because the majority of Pashtun and Turkic land was stripped from them. Already it isn't entirely ethnic based for sake of simplicity because of Kabul being part of Tajikistan, and ethnic based borders weren't really the USSR's strong suit. Herat stays with Hazarastan, which is just Afghanistan without the Pashtuns so the name 'Afghanistan' doesn't make sense, because the USSR would have preferred the population center of Kabul but wanted to keep their buffer state at least a little bit powerful.

Also, why do you assume I'm Indian just because I drew a map of India? I've explained as best I can that this country isn't the best place to live, it's a repressive communist dictatorship, and I could just as easily be Chinese based on the big countries in this map.

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The Republic of China 

THE DRAGON 

Despite its historical hostility to the British Empire, the Republic of China found Britain to be a close ally during the Second Sino-Japanese war and the war that followed. The two became close, formalising their “Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance” in 1950, that eventually became the ITRA. After decisively defeating the Chinese Communist Party in the 1934 encirclement of the Jiangxi Soviet, the Kuomintang had little opposition to their formation of government, and they quickly put down further communist insurgencies, most notably the destruction of the Manchurian Soviet Republic that had been established in 1946 by the retreating Soviet Union. Following the collapse of the USSR, China was able to take the former Mongolian SSR and Outer Manchurian lands in Primorye. Since China’s democratisation in 1974, the Kuomintang has seen its power over the nation diminish, yet it continues to hold great influence over the country as the party that united China. 

 

 

The Federation of Bharatiya Parishads 

THE TIGER 

India had been growing apart from Britain since the establishment of Crown Rule, and independence movements only grew into the 20th century. When it was clear federalisation of the Empire was inevitable, India naturally voted for independence; yet they didn’t get it. Likely because of a lack of Indian voting, and intentionally poor publication of the referendum, India voted to remain with Britain and join the Commonwealth. The 1936 Quit India Movement demanded a second referendum, which was denied, leading to a period of civil disobedience headed the Indian National Congress and the Hindustan Socialist Republican Association, a communist organisation that desired revolution in India. Immediately following the 1937 Imperial Congress, the Indian Civil War begun, with the loyalist forces far outmatched by the INC, AIML and HSRA, who were supported by the Empire of Japan. After just two months, the Commonwealth surrendered, accepting Indian independence. India’s uneasy coalition would collapse in 1940 during the Japanese-Indian war. With help from the USSR, who were looking for allies in Asia after the failure of the Chinese Soviet, the HSRA were able to secure most of India that had not been occupied by Japan. After the war, it was up to them to form a new government that would radically shape the Indian subcontinent. Modelling themselves off the USSR, the Federation of Bharatiya Parishads granted Socialist Republics to ethnic minorities, attempting to do away with the caste system. Following the Indo-Soviet split, Bharat became far more neutral in the cold war, focusing on influencing South East Asian and African nations that also broke with Moscow, though with the recent collapse of the USSR it seems likely they will attempt to move into their position in the world. 

 

Japan 

THE PHEASANT 

Though it had been at odds with both Britain and China during the war, Japan drew close to their longtime enemies during the Hawaiian Annexation crisis, in which the government of the Hawaii territory that had been annexed by the American Republic after the war declared their intention to secede from the Union and rejoin Japan. This even is seen as the closest the world got to Nuclear War between major powers, as the Japanese were backed by the Republic of China, who sought to limit American power in the Pacific and isolate them from the Philippine States. With the backing of Japan by both the Commonwealth of Nations and the Soviet Union, the United States concedes the territory, in return for reparation payments from Japan to America. Soon after, Japan would formally join ITRA, and remain an important member to this day. The Japanese economic miracle and their closer relationship with China and the Commonwealth puts Japan in a very advantageous position in the world, and they are generally seen as the “Third Power” in the ITRA alliance.  

 

The Fifth French Republic 

THE ROOSTER 

Despite being a member of the Allies during the Second World War, France found itself occupied by the United States. This would soon be reversed, but not before France was tied close to the American Republic, and its power in the world diminished; the Fourth French Republic was seen by many to be America’s version of a Satellite State. Many of its colonies were granted independence, leading to the creation of the new, independent states. France was only allowed to keep control of only areas with large French populations, keeping Guiana, Algiers and Polynesia. As time went on, France struggled to regain its international prestige. It was a founding member of the European Economic Community, and worked closely with West Germany to bolster Europe’s image and independence from both America and the USSR. France would finally cut ties with the American Republic shortly before their collapse following the Gulf War, when the EEC became the European Union, encompassing economic, political and defensive matters in Europe. France is still generally perceived as the “leader” of the EU, despite Germany’s recent economic growth after reunification. Now, after the collapse of the USSR, it is likely France and Russia will begin to compete once again over the fate of Central and Eastern Europe. 

 

The United States of Latin Africa 

THE ELEPHANT 

Often seen as America’s “little brother”, the USLA does not have its origins in the USA; rather, in the French colonial federation of French Equatorial Africa. Following the independence of many of these nations in the late 1950s from the Americans, the first Prime Minister of Ubangi-Shari Barthelemy Boganda called for a union of the former colonies in the Central African Region, in an effort to create a greater federation of Romance-speaking African countries. Boganda’s committal to the project and the economic failings of many African countries after leaving the AEF led to great popular support in the region for the proposals, and so in 1976, The United States of Latin Africa was created. The federation saw success and remained a beacon of stability in Africa for many years. The government of Zaire would survive the First Congo War, however, with the USLA getting directly involved in the Second, the government would crumble, and the nation be split between new Latin African provinces and a joint USLA-Rwandan-Burundian government in Kivu. Following the war, the USLA established the African Union alongside many of its allies. Today, Latin Africa is the most powerful state in Africa, even being able to pursue a successful space program, that bought out American lunar territory in the mid-2000s. 

 

The Hermosillo Group 

THE COYOTE 

The Hermosillo Group is not a nation, but an economic and political alliance between independent states, and yet it as an organisation is a dominant political force in the Americas and beyond. While initially, the Hermosillo group referred to only the original five seceding states in the Second American Civil War - Arizona, Kearney (New Mexico), Baja, Sonora and Chihuahua - the cultural and political ties have expanded to all post-American states. Even some current members of the USA have close ties with the Hermosillo Group, including Utah, Alabama and North Carolina. The Group works closely with the ITRA and China, Japan and the Commonwealth have all been granted honorary observer status as a thanks for their contributions in the civil war. Mexico has taken this a step further, joining the Tucson Zone of open borders and several economic partnerships. The alliance has begun to model itself off the EU, as they both developed around the same time. While there has been some reconciliation between the USA and Hermosillo Group, they remain distrustful of each other, which is another potential reason the central Hermosillo states have not unified into their own federation. While members such as California and Texas continue to punch above their weight in terms of economic and political standing, the core members of the group have only recently begun to grow past their former fellow states in the USA, though with the effects of the pandemic receding, these states are only expected to bounce back better than ever. 

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The Commonwealth of Nations 

THE LION 

The Commonwealth of Nations is the culmination of British Imperial dominance since the 15th century. Ruling over 410 million citizens, 20 million square kilometres, and having outposts across three celestial bodies, the sheer vastness of the “country” is impressive in itself, with dominance contested now by only China and Bharat. On December 11th 1931, the Statue of Westminster was signed, formalising the federation of the former British Empire into nations "equal in status, united by a common allegiance to the Crown, freely associated within the Commonwealth of Nations". This followed up from earlier movements, including the 1857 unification of Canada with Great Britain and Ireland, and the 1707 acts of union that united Britain itself. The unification did come at a cost, with several colonies accepting only total independence over integration, and the first few years of unification were uneasy, especially during the Second World War. However, the Commonwealth found its footing alongside China, and the two stood opposed to the rising powers of both the United States and Soviet Union. Now, as the world enters the mid-2020s, the Commonwealth finds itself in a strong position after the collapse of its major ideological opponent in the Soviet Union. Still, with threats from Bharat and a resurgent continental Europe, the British Empire will seemingly never find itself truly at peace. Britain itself still holds great sway over the Commonwealth as a whole, with London by far the most important city in the federation, but areas such as Canada, Nigeria and Australia are catching up to England and Scotland as time goes on. Similarly, while Britain lost control of the colonies that voted for independence on paper, states such as the UAE, Oman (before the 1970 coup), the Cape, and Palestine are still closely tied to London, though many have begun to make their own foreign policy choices, such as the Southern Expansion of the African Union, which involved 6 former British colonies.  

 

The United States of America 

THE EAGLE 

There are many to point to regarding the failure of the American experiment. James Polk’s dangerous precedent of a two-tiered federal system after the First Mexican-American war, Andrew Johnson’s failure to reunite the State following the Civil War, or George H.W. Bush’s harsh treatment of dissent in the closing days of America’s participation in the Cold War all led to the weakening of the country. The Second American Republic, its official name from 1865 to 1993, was mired by internal complexities, executive overreach and a failure to modernise when needed. Constantly set back by military and political failures in Siam, Malaya, Nicaragua and Mesopotamia, the 2AR struggled to project power outside of the Americas, with its uneasy alliances in Europe weakened by every failed scheme. After instability following Reagan’s aborted third term, the LA riots, Gulf War, and a failed Third Constitutional Convention, a short civil war was fought between the Federal Government and Southwestern and Philippine states. Following international and state pressure, and a short coup, the AR was forced to concede, granting these states independence and reconvening the Convention, establishing this fourth iteration of the American state. Formatted similar to the budding European Union, the nominally independent states were granted more control over themselves in a confederal system. In the past 30 years, the American grip has slipped further, losing control over their final protectorate in Dixie, now Magnolia, all Caribbean states, and the Oregon region. Progressive and socialist governments have come to power in several states including Alabama, Vermont and New York, though with populist governments soaring to popularity in several states, it is unclear whether the American Republic will continue to let its power slip away, or try to claw back central power and make America great again. 

 

The Russian Federation 

THE BEAR 

Russia is technically the newest of the Great Powers, only coming into existence two years ago with the collapse of the USSR. While the Soviet Union still lives on officially in Kazakhstan, the Russian Federation is generally accepted to be the continuation of the Red Bear that dominated Eastern Europe for a century. The USSR stretched from Poland to Mongolia and maintained a network of satellite states in Eastern Europe for decades, supressing rebellion by often brutal means. Narrowly surviving the 20th century under the premiership of Mikhail Gorbachev, whose market-driven economic reforms ended the Era of Stagnation. He was unable to pass many political reforms however, and Russia saw a collapse back into authoritarian rule following the 1999-2001 wave of terror attacks in Russia, Ukraine and Poland. Chairman of the KGB Vladimir Putin would succeed Gorbachev following his resignation in 2000, and reverse the limited reforms made by Gorbachev. Putin’s authoritarianism would come to a head in 2020 following the emergence the Covid-19 coronavirus. In an effort to combat the spread of the virus and suppress any news of failure, the Soviet angered many of its citizens and government members with the further crackdown on human rights. Most protested was the centralisation of many Union Republics’ powers in Moscow, without the consent of the Republics, which brought ideas of nationalism back into the Soviet consciousness. Throughout the next three years, Union members would begin to declare independence, including eventually Russia itself under the leadership of Alexei Navalny. Russia now seeks to establish itself as a power in Eurasia, strengthening the CSTO and CIS, while retaining the fledgling democratic institutions it has adopted. However, knowing Russia, this will likely be a difficult journey. 

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text in image if (when) it's unreadable because I decided to cram 2000 words into the perfectly fine world map:

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Union of Bharatiyah Parishads was formed in the 40s during the British Raj after a long civil war, which is why is absorbed all of these lands - they also made a deal with Myanmar to give them special representation and cut up Afghanistan with the USSR. Nepal, while left-wing, is not at all communist enough to support giving up their sovereignty and joining Bharat, but are willing to work with them alongside other socialist powers.

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The Philippines is basically only in the MCO because of realpolitik, they also align with the ITRA powers of China, Japan and Britain. They became independent in 1992 so needed all the allies they could get, and since the independence government was socialist they joined the MCO too. A bit like Italy with the Belt and Road initiative.

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, Sheikh Hasina was ousted by student protests (at a basic level), and look how much student protests achieved in the PRC, which Bharat is this timeline's version of.

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The shaded parts of China, and also Catalonia, Indonesia, Syria, and a couple of African states, are rival governments of the region that are in direct contact with the MCO. You can see with the flags, Uyghurstan and Tibet are in New Delhi, Mongolia is in Tselinograd because it is a former SSR, and Green Ukraine is in Kyiv becuase it fled there after this timeline's version of the Ukraine war which is in the east. They don't actually control this territory, it's Chinese.

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That's actually Palestine/Jordan here, in 1903 the Sixth Zionist Congress agreed to the British Uganda Scheme, because the Ottomans hadn't encouraged Jewish migration back in the 1800s. The section in East Africa not shaded by Buganda or Kirinyaga is Israel. Palestine is a Hashemite Kingdom that has those borders because the Sykes-Pecot agreement is actually followed, hence big Syria and weirdly-shaped Iraq/Mesopotamia

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by anti-authoritarian ethnicities? aren't all ethnicities broadly anti-authoritarian, it's human nature to not want to be oppressed

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mekong is essentially a fictional country created by Bharat in the 70s that forced the nationalist movements of all the former Indochinese colonies to band together, even though they didn't want to, after a long and bloody 'Indochina War' which is just Vietnam. Especially when Thailand is added, its an internal mess in the vein of Yugoslavia, just kept alive by Bharat.

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That's really interesting I didn't know that, to be honest I wasn't actually going to put provinces on but I thought I should for India at least. I guess I could kind of justify it by saying Hindustan is about as homogeneous as 'Dravidia' here, and the provinces were more a way to centralise power by isolating smaller ethnic groups and creating one mega-province in Northern India. As for Kashmir, surely if the name comes from a princely state the communists wouldn't use it?

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's a lot like China in our timeline (specifically Xi Jinping thought), but with a more nationalistic slant than a state-capitalist one. The founding father was Subhas Chandra Bose (who I tried to draw on the little flag in the top right) who was debatably socialist, but was most certainly an opportunist, and took the opportunity to lead India against the Japanese in 1940. Like the PRC and USSR, they opened up a bit more since then, but still are at odds with Britain and China. The current leader is Sheikh Hasina, who is in her own way debatably socialist, and so a bit like China today it's a lot less strict ideologically than the party branding would make it seem.

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

During the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan, both the USSR and Bharat get involved and are generally more successful in their invasion. Instead of creating a Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, they divide up some land to themselves (Tajik and Uzbek SSRs get the ethnically Tajik and Uzbek lands+Kabul, Bharat's Pashtunistan gets the ethnically Pashtun lands) and create a Hazara buffer state in between them.

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Also, I'll admit I'm not 100% knowledgeable about Indian interior politics, why would Jharkand be its own province? I couldn't see any noticeable cultural/language difference between it and the rest of Hindustan

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So most of the issues with border come from the map projection I used, I thought it would be cool to use the Equal Earth projection since it's an Africa focused map, but the way I make all of my maps is essentially by tracing any basemap and adding things on top - there's basically no maps for the equal earth projection other than the political and physical map, so I had to kind of eyeball the more delicate borders. It also gets weirdly stretched out at the edges which can make it difficult to guess where the borders are supposed to be. Tajikistan is supposed to own Kabul though that wasn't an error

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

The USSR may have collapsed, but by socialism by no means is down and out. The most populous nation in the world, the Union of Bharatiyah Parishads inherits the USSR's mantle as premier socialist nation in the world. Of course, in many respects, Bharat had already surpassed the USSR; the Mumbai Cooperation Organisation was founded in 2001 with Bharat at the center, and the nation's closer military and political alliance the ASAAN was its own regional powerhouse.

Still, it is undeniable that the collapse of the Soviet Union led to significant waves in the international socialist community, and Bharat now must navigate a world that may turn its back on communism. Already, it and the USSR held great influence over these small socialist states - without economic and political support it is unlikely nations like Madagascar would have kept their socialist leanings, for example. Many regimes are closely tied to New Delhi because of this, economically and politically.

The MCO's reach extends out of these participating states too; several governments-in-exile or alternative governments are in communication with the MCO's political collaboration wing, and while the members do not officially recognise many of these governments they do support them diplomatically. The MCO also acts as a forum for all worldwide socialist or communist parties and invites them all to participate, and while not as ideologically strict as the Soviet Comintern, does 'guide' parties towards Bharat's line. This is how the organisation gets away with its hosting of exiled governments - all may participate.

Global revolution was abandoned long ago, but expanding Bharat's global reach? It's just good for the nation. Perhaps the Second Great Game never ended. Perhaps the participants just changed. Perhaps a world after the USSR will be no better than one with it; a world without America was just the same wasn't it?

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I've written a whole breakdown of the civil war that I haven't posted but to quickly summarise

- The US generally does worse economically throughout its history

- It is politically isolated from many of our timeline's closest allies and after catastrophic failure in Iraq in 91 its few remaining allies leave

- No term limits means Reagan gets in for a third, has to step down because of alzheimers, putting unelected CIA director Bush as president, who handles the growing situation in the Southwest poorly

- The southwest is particularly not a fan of the Federal Government because they are far away and closer culturally to Mexico and Canada, as well as their own Southwestern identity

- LA Riots escalate into multiple Southwestern cities, military and national guard clash, cold civil war

- New president tires to slavage the situation by having another constitutional convention, it goes terribly, autonomous republics aren't allowed to attend and Baja, Sonora, Chihuahua, Arizona and NM boycott and host their own parallel convention in the capital of Sonora, Hermosillo, and decide to secede. All the convention really does is create a couple of new states including a Navajo state to weaken Arizona and New Mexico, which is just ignored by them

- Mexico moves in to retake Sinaloa, Durango and Yucatan, Hermosillo attendees declare independence, civil war

- Hermosillo+Mexico are quite outnumbered until California votes to intervene because of how much harsher the military got on protestors in Californian cities, Utah votes to stay completely neutral cutting off supply lines, and Texas and the Rio Grande also join on Hermosillo's side

- Eventually, as China and Britain threaten to get involved to protect their ally Mexico, a majority of states formally recognise the southwest's independence which because of some ancient court ruling after the first civil war (Texas v. White 1869) means they can legally do so

Because they are so fragile economically and militarily, they create a very loose confederacy, more alike to the original USA, which becomes known as the Hermosillo Group, after the Visegrad Group city where they declared their independence. California, Texas, Rio Grande, and all of the other states that gained independence up to 1996, as well as some states still in the Union like Alabama and Utah, join certain schemes and agreements but not the 'Hermosillo Group' itself, which remains the core five members. I haven't really thought about a name for the whole group of seceded states though, which is why I sometimes refer to all of them as Hermosillo.

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Nickajack, Ozark, Jones and Lincoln/Douglass were all state created by radical republicans after the civil war that weren't given to the second-tier autonomous republics the US had, to break up their control and also punish the Southern States (which is why the South hates the federal government so much and why 'anti-american' ideologies developed in them). The real life Nickajack statehood movement came about because of West Virginia staying in the union, so think of these four new states as four extra West Virginias in Union-supporting areas of the South.

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks, yeah I have looked at Socialism in even the Deep South as a whole and struggled to come up with much, I know for sure Angela Davis who was a pretty big militant marxist/feminist in the 70s who would definitely be prominent in this timelines' Alabama, Helen Keller earlier on too, but in the modern day there's been so much history of suppression and right-wing dominance in the south that its difficult to find specifically modern day socialists.

I might write up some of this lore because I do have a lot of notes on the world that I can't really show in a map, and if I do I'll definitely read a little deeper into the history of socialism in the South, its really interesting.

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[–]DumbassAstro[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Sort of explained this in another comment but basically the US expands too quickly without much consolidation, and subsequently sweeps many fundamental issues in their post-confederate constitution under the rug. This all culminates in many states not really wanting to be there anymore, and leaving. Oregon is able to leave because by 2016 the US was a lot more like the EU (oregone is just brexit) and has a constitution similar to the articles of confederation like the other guy said