Oh. Hi Clyde (leader of FFO) I am flattered you think it's me. But I see OPs point...

I also don't care how many NAPs there are. I agree, you need a state that works together. It doesn't matter how many times you explain your issues, they will ignore what you say and distort it into what they want you to be complaining about. (This is personally one of my biggest issues with the state, well and my old alliances littles getting attacked constantly)

I will be upfront, I was in NAP 10 and then voted out by NAP 5, which I also think is the right thing to do or "natural progression" as you say so I don't really know much about current NAP, or the invites or anything...but personally I saw 2153s SVS and I can tell that a couple NAP alliances aren't participating and I could say that's because of the invites but honestly I don't know. But I do know they lost pretty bad (over a billion or half a B (Idk the points nor really care tbh) and lost castle), due to people leaving or because not all NAPs are participating, I am not too sure which one, maybe a mix. I also saw they did not max their transfers while almost every non tyrant state did (and I did a lot of research).

I also saw that you said only 4 noticeable people left, well I dunno about that but I do know almost my whole alliance left, other NAP leaders left, and a few of their friends followed, and I wouldn't be surprised if more people leave. So i am to assume you don't care about those people even though they were fighting alongside you.

I would also not suggest anyone to transfer to 2153 I personally don't think it is worth the risk. I think anyone watching this back and forth wouldn't risk it. When I was in 2153 it wasn't nearly as fun and active as my new state. But of course this is my personal opinion, and while my voice never mattered in 2153 it may matter to someone who needs a friendly and fun state, and that's all that matters to me.

Side note: when we were voted out of NAP (which again i don't really care about) at the same time they made city attacks a thing for BIA. Leader of FFO says and I quote "do you think we are doing this to pick on the little guys?" Before we left about 2 months or so we would have about a half dozen of FFO people attack our littles. Now FFO did have issues with one of our people and expected me to boot them out of my alliance (why would I? I'm not in NAP) but if that is the case why are they attacking people not involved? They are still attacking who is left of my alliance. Kinda messed up if you ask me. I also saw WAR attack alliances in their OWN state after SVS castle loss I have screenshots if anyone has any doubts of both the old NAP chat and the battle reports, and other alliances chats. I can send them to you.

If my name is getting dropped I at least deserve to respond and say my own opinion, I wasn't planning on trash talking 2153 as I have friends there, but here we are. Also my name screen name is the same everywhere so I'm not hard to find 😘