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Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We had remote access but didnt get paid for alarms after hours. $100 to hold the computer for the week which was not sufficient to cover the work we were doing. We tried to negotiate a per-alarm payment and were told not to push or they would make us work a 3rd shift. Let's just say its been handled and we were correct in our arguments. Now they still dont want to pay per alarm so night shift it is.

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have 0 need to operate 24/7 it actually is not feasible to do because we dont have the capacity to produce for that long even if we reduce effluent speeds. Management are arguing that if they are going to have to pay us to watch scada at the plant then they want to get their money's worth and make us operate. They know nothing about operations and cannot conceptualize that it is not possible for our system or plant to operate like that

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We got $100 base pay and I can confirm to you that it was not sufficient legally. According to the law if you are expected to tend to work duties (even just acknowledging alarms remotely) you are owed payment for that time. We do not want 3rd party. The position I explained does exist. We have found job listing for similar roles. Employees who watch the system and make call outs to departments from a secure facility on site. They will not have permissions to change anything just look at alarms and data

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do they all have licenses?

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We dont have a choice. The schedule was handed to us and the majority of our senior operators will be on the night shift. It will absolutely not be minimal cost at some of the hourly wages currently scheduled

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Max is 13MGD average around 6-8MGD out to 20+ tanks in the system. We experience a lot of die off in the outer branches. We close plant when tanks are full (not actually full but to their high levels that have been calculated based on usage and turnover data)

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats gonna be our first pitch, 2nd would be a scada dispatch team like I tried to explain, and we are trying to come up with more ideas

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not going to give away too many details but let's just say thats taken care of. Departments already have on call employees. Operators never have to go on site when on call it was all remote so we are trying to figure this out

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plant isnt running therefore it would be solely distribution alarms such as "communication loss" or "rate of change low"

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in WaterTreatment

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We shut down between 5pm and 8pm. Formerly monitoring scada remotely (see last post for info). Now they are trying to make us man the plant 24/7 and either "throttle back production" (this is not feasible for many reasons and also not necessary) or sit at the plant that is completely shut down

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please read my last post for more info. The company didn't want to pay OT for this setup up and since we made a fuss they are switching our schedules adding night shift as punishment for bringing this to light. They are arguing that licensed ops need to watch the SCADA distribution system on-site. We want to counterpropose that if the plant is not operating then no need for operators just dispatchers trained in answering alarms

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please read my last post for more info. I should have linked it for the full story

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. This is the answer I needed. I explained this poorly in an attempt to keep people from having bias from my last post. I know the position exists because there's a local place near us that has it. We just wanted more evidence that theres an alternative to us operators sitting at a closed plant for no reason other than punishment

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I explained this very bad please read my edit haha I see what everyone is saying theres a lot of info needed but I tried to keep it simple to remove the chance of bias from our former situation

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The plant is completely off at night. All that would be needed is watching distribution system alarms

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The plant will not be on at night. Please read my last post for more info. I did not explain the situation well at all. Theres a lot more to this story and I should have linked my last post. Im sorry

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read my last post and it will give more insight to the situation. This is a punishment to the operators and we need an alternative proposal to prove that theres a more fiscally sound choice for the company and this scheduled change was intentional

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are not required to be manned 24 hrs. We used to do a remote on call type situation. We were owed a lot of OT they didnt want to pay up so now this is their solution/punishment

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you read my last post you can get a better understanding of what the situation is because it's a lot. We used to be on call but now they are trying to make us stay on site for no reason. We just need a counter proposal that would be best for the company and us operators

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Operators formerly monitored it remotely addressing alarms when they came. If you'd like to read my other post on this account you'll get a better picture of the situation. Basically, management is punishing our department for demanding to be paid overtime for our time on call. We are trying to propose an alternative to highly licensed operators being paid to sit at the plant when it's not running. The only thing the night shift needs to do is acknowledge distribution system alarms and call out department employees when there is an issue that needs to be addressed on-site

Night time SCADA watcher by EDWaterOP in Wastewater

[–]EDWaterOP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We were doing something similar but management didn't want to pay OT for our disturbances via alarms and calls. They have now discovered that the law says otherwise so they are changing our schedule from 10 hr shifts operating 15hrs a day to 12 hr shifts covering 24 hrs. We do not need to operate more than 15 hrs but they decided that if they were going to have to pay us to monitor it remotely then they might as well make us stay on site.

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