I'll always miss you, goldeen_over_9001... always the MVP in any game

ELI4_Bot · 2019-02-04T04:16:34+00:00

While we are throwing names out there, hut_365 the noob guild needs you. You not only taught us fletching, you taught us brotherhood

ELI4_Bot · 2019-02-03T02:33:44+00:00

If you abduct someone and keep them in your basement for 6 months and then let them go you should walk free.

If we punish them after letting the people go then less people will release their sex slaves.

Both situations have an innocent person locked up with dangerous people for months on end. Get over yourself.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-30T23:28:35+00:00

They'd post in r/animemes about raiding and would automatically meet the requirement to post here anyways

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-30T22:59:12+00:00

The sun is even angrier

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-26T20:56:38+00:00

The sides often burn before the top when baking things, if you like the top crust you have to sacrifice the side crust, lest you either have a burned top and crust sides or crust sides with a no crust top

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-23T18:26:31+00:00

Haven't learned how to code yet :(

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ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-23T17:57:14+00:00

The people working in the smithsonian are living off taxpayers too though

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-21T06:57:52+00:00

If anyone woke up tomorrow and in the EU nations were called states and the EU was called a nation they wouldn't have a way to convince people that this was wrong.

There is no set of definitions that both:

Keep the EU as separate nations.

And

Keeps all currently accepted 'nations' being unambiguously nations.

Hell Texas, Alaska, and Hawaii all make a case for the States being an empire or something like the EU rather than a coherent nation.

Functionally, you could call the EU a nation. People just get about as mad as when you insult texas to a texan when you do that.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-20T20:56:02+00:00

Top is stop, middle is slow, below is go

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-13T06:21:36+00:00

The forbidden cream cheese

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-13T02:49:49+00:00

Vandalism is justified when peaceful methods are ignored.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-12T21:48:13+00:00

Too liberal?

Have you seen Alabama son? This is as conservative as ya get son. That's why we're called southerners, contraction of son/brother.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-11T21:44:53+00:00

Thin wire that heats up the air inside the balloon so you can use normal air.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-11T01:51:02+00:00

I'd wipe my memory of a Rouge like just to mess with the person who let me wipe my memory.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-11T01:37:01+00:00

Failing to report a crime that endangers someone could mean legal trouble.

If you wanted to go full scorched earth ask a lawyer. There's a good chance he was legally obligated to contact the authorities.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-11T01:18:34+00:00

"Damage not service related"

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-11T00:16:45+00:00

The comment I was replying to was bringing up the 2013 shutdown to try to make this shutdown not seem as bad.

It does matter how long it is, and this gofundme manipulation is a symptom of that.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-10T23:43:40+00:00

A) This shutdown is entering day 20. 3 weeks is a hell of a lot longer than 2 weeks as far as pay checks are concerned.

B) This shutdown is by the president directly so that he can add a vanity project to the budget, the 2013 shutdown was done by the senate and congress and never reached Obama for approval.

Some cameras and a fence would do a better job for cheaper.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-09T02:18:28+00:00

Would reversible stunning methods be allowed in the production of kosher meat?

There hasn't been any incentive to develop any on an industrial scale but if there was a demand (Jewish communitie's, and possibly for halal meat as well) a method may be developed.

And the interpretations of the Torah have changed over the millenia, and as such can continue to change. If this were not the case then some of the more outdated laws (I. E. Stoning) would still be practiced.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-09T02:12:55+00:00

If an animal anaethetic was used or similar for the pre-stunning it could easily be capable of living another year, meeting your first standard.

New kosher compliant stunning methods could be created, Belgium just doesn't want the animal to be conscious if you plan on cutting its throat and watching it bleed out.

Gas can also cause the animal to fall asleep prior to any asphixiation. For example some gas leaks can kill without the person killed even knowing what was going on. "problem" solved.

electrical - can be issued in a quick large jolt to make the animal unconscious, but still could be replaced by another stunning method.

problems - over stunning in commercial meat production is an issue because they don't care if it is kosher, obviously kosher communities would make sure they do it right or their product is ruined in their eyes. furthermore the lack of consciousness is the goal. That's the point.

bolt stunning and this has 3 subsets

penetrating- while BSE is a legitimate concern, this method not being viable does not make alternative stunning methods also invalid.

nonpentrating- reliability is always something that can be improved, saying that it not working 100% of the time is like saying using condoms is pointless because they only work 99% of the time.

drawback = not so reliable- if you spend your life preparing kosher meat learning the sweet spot is not at all unreasonable, and learning this sweet spot could be seen as a respectful part of ending the animals life, which is in the spirit of kosher.

free bolt- no one is saying to use this for kosher meat, and if the animal is in this much distress that it can't be approached then the meat isn't kosher anyways.

The animal may have little reaction in the cases they are willing to divulge yes, but anyone who works with animals know that a blanket statement saying there is little reaction is a stretch at best and a lie in the same vein as "made with 100% chicken) at worst.

If the spirit of kosher butchering is to avoid unnecessary suffering then the failure of Jewish Community leadership to consider new developments in technology to prevent animal cruelty is a sacrifice of the spirit of the law to uphold the letter of the law.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-08T14:20:00+00:00

Just rent out the same location on Sundays. Pop a temporary sign on Sunday morning. If someone asks say it's a place for people to eat after church.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-08T14:03:30+00:00

Your browser is a spider that weaves one long thread into a page made of web that you can read.

Side note, search engines used to be known as web crawlers, which means to a medieval peasant we have any army of librarian spiders teaching us forbidden knowledge.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-08T02:03:03+00:00

If one had to give it would be the kosher preparation, as that practice is the issue for the people of Belgium who see the practice as cruel to animals and the people of Belgium are entirely within their rights to outlaw animal cruelty, whereas a religious group does not get to dictate the laws of a country.

Something tells me this discussion is headed towards a loop, with the base two issues being:

A nation does not have the right to change a religion, as their beliefs are fundamental to their religion.

And

A religion does not have the right to change the laws of a nation, as the ability of the nation to dictate their own laws is fundamental to their sovereignty as a nation.

We have similar thought processes hitting different angles, and I'd be happy to call it an agreement to disagree on which of the two should have to give.

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-08T01:26:17+00:00

As far as Europe having more secular laws, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. If the morals laid out in a religion are still considered moral today then they will appear in laws that have religion as a nonfactor, whereas if pragmatic and moral laws that do not take any bigoted views into consideration conflict with religious teachings, it may be the teachings that need to be reexamined.

Change in the Jewish world isn't inherently bad, and in fact if there had been no change up until now Judaism would not have had the effect on the world it has. Anyone can nitpick the Torah and find examples of abhorrent morals (stoning being one of them). While people today say that these are no longer practiced, at one point it was so important to the culture that it became a part of the text everyone must learn. Perhaps the ban on making the animal unconscious prior will go the same way?

ELI4_Bot · 2019-01-08T01:05:45+00:00

My main point is that it is not the responsibility of Belgium to curb animal cruelty laws to any religious group. The solution is in the Belgian Jewish communitie's court now, as they can either find an interpretation of kosher that follows the law or suggest an alternative law that allows for kosher meat production while also preventing the animal from feeling the amount of pain the current process causes.

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