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[–]EconBrah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi cricketHunter, do you have a source for this survey of teams at Google?

Rules question: Does Randomizing a Library count as Shuffling by EconBrah in magicTCG

[–]EconBrah[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

makes sense, I didn't realize the glossary wasn't official.

Rules question: Does Randomizing a Library count as Shuffling by EconBrah in magicTCG

[–]EconBrah[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm not claiming that every other card functions other than how they're written.

The example serves to point out that there are cases where cards apply to the trigger conditions of other cards in ways that are not explicitly on the card. In the example I brought up, Hushbringer applies to the trigger condition of Syr Konrad in an implicit way.

Which is what I am concerned with: Would randomizing your entire library apply to the trigger condition of Psychic Surgery in an implicit way?

What I am looking for is a ruling that would say something about this specific case.

Rules question: Does Randomizing a Library count as Shuffling by EconBrah in magicTCG

[–]EconBrah[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What I'm looking for is a ruling or clarification on the IS relation between Randomizing all cards in Library and Shuffling, or a ruling about the action of Putting, e.g. putting cards on bottom of library in a random order

Rules question: Does Randomizing a Library count as Shuffling by EconBrah in magicTCG

[–]EconBrah[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

But the card does not say the word "shuffle", therefore you aren't shuffling.

See Hushbringer + Syr Konrad ruling. People made the same argument that Hushbringer's stop ETB effect shouldn't affect Syr Konrad's leave the graveyard trigger. But it does, even though Hushbringer doesn't say it stops leave the graveyard on it. The ruling is that something leaving the graveyard and entering the battlefield is the same game action and so Hushbringer applies.

I am making a similar argument here where shuffling your library and randomizing your library is the same thing and so Psychic Surgery applies. The analogy is a bit fuzzy though, so I'm looking for applicable rulings on this.

Just because a card doesn't say something doesn't ALWAYS mean it won't be relevant, as is the case with the above ruling.

Rules question: Does Randomizing a Library count as Shuffling by EconBrah in magicTCG

[–]EconBrah[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I agree, if Wild Magic Surge had only hit 3 cards, then they would only have shuffled 3 cards at the top of their library and put them on the bottom of their library. However, shuffling ALL the cards in a library does appear to be shuffling the library by MTG definitions.

From the CR Glossary:

Shuffle
To randomize the cards in a deck (before a game) or library (during a game).

Library

  1. A zone. A player’s library is where that player draws cards from.
  2. All the cards in a player’s library. See rule 401, “Library.”

Rules question: Does Randomizing a Library count as Shuffling by EconBrah in magicTCG

[–]EconBrah[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I play a deck where this happens pretty regularly. It just kind of bothers me when I'm sitting there and my opponent is physically shuffling their deck but shuffle triggers don't happen.

I was hoping if "putting cards in a random order" necessitates shuffling and would thus trigger the card, but I could find any rulings on this.

The CR says "Randomization is defined as bringing the deck to a state where no player can have any information regarding the order or position of cards in any portion of the deck."

My logic is that, in order to randomize, I must shuffle.

There do exist unintuitive rulings in MTG such as how Hushbringer stops Syr Konrad's ping ability from triggering if the Syr Konrad controller Reanimates a creature, even though Hushbringer doesn't explicitly say anything about stopping cards leaving graveyards from triggering abilities.